A New Superstar Power Cord

oh, I should mention that Paul at TWL feels his standard copper terminations sound very similar to the IeGO's with his cord.

Hey Lak,
A 5 foot Seven Plus that, as an AXPONA demo, has IeGO gold over high purity copper terminations with carbon fiber housings. It was on my AMR CD77.1 and now on my Lampizator. The BMI Oceanics remain everywhere else. It replaced a BMI Oceanic with silver terminations and adds some excellent warmth back into my system while still retaining good pace, detail and soundstage, especially after settling in for a week or so. I have tried some other TWL cords added in, but the BMI's are better in the preamp and amp in my system, especially for detail, air and soundstage.

BMI remains my go to cord and I will likely try another Oceanic with the new Rhodium termination in that position at some point. But my system sounds great as it is now and the TWL is definitely integral to that.

The TWL is an excellent power cord at an incredibly good price. I am very happy with it.

Budburma,
What length PC did you buy?
Which type of plug did you go with?
What piece of equipment are you using it with, sorry right now I can't place AMR?
Thanks...

Gentlepeopleofaudioland. Not too surprising that different results are found on different pieces of gear. But the comparison to Elrod is a very nice complement. It may very well bump up some business. Like Mr. McGrogan(2), Elrod is hard to beat in natural, smooth effortless detail and dynamics. I found the EPS and Signature series to be very engaging, if only they weren't 20 or 30 pounds. Makes me think of the Weather Girls, nee Two Tons of Fun!
That said, on the bang for buck front, I just put a Triode Wire Labs 7 into the back of my AMR and the gestalt is as good as sitting in chair with your eyes closed and smiling at changing clouds against a vivid blue sky. Surreally pleasant, like a Maxfield Parrish painting.

Nglazer, they are ridiculously expense but the new High Fidelity Ultimate Reference Rhodium power cords surpass everything I have heard with an entirely new technology. But the prices is ugg.

Are there anyone who has tested out Anti Cable power cables against Lessloss pc's?

Thanks for this thread, Neal. Have you compared the cord to the Elrod Statement Gold? I agree with Lak. Please keep us posted.

Thanks Neal,
Keep us posted :-).

LessLoss DFPC Sig #2. installed on PS Audio PWD MkII DAC. Have not had much time to auditon or burn in, but short-term experience slightly different so far from awe-inspiring Sig #1 used on preamp.

On DAC, eerie sense of quiet, crystalline clarity, detail and soundstage, but so far a bit on the "lively" side of what I was accustomed to with Valhalla PC. Not unpleasant or uncomfortable, and in fact may be a bit of a veil lifting, but we'll see if burn in leads to smoother, less "up front" sound. I listened to soundtrack of Philip Glass's Mishima, and there are some wind chimes and other delicate sound effects that I had simply never heard before. Sent chills up my spine.

Will report further, but this is fun!

Neal

Will do, Lak. Per Louis Motek's suggestion, the next one (due in tomorrow) would serve best placed on my PS Audio PWD Mk II DAC, where I think a Nordost Valhalla now resides. The comparo should be interesting.

Neal

Neal,
Please keep us informed regarding further break-in and the effect of the second LessLoss DFPC Reference PC including what equipment you place it in.

Cool....I'm glad that you are thoroughly enjoying your new power cord Neal!

About a week on -- It's A-live!

To be candid, I am embarrassed to gush, but I simply cannot get over the startling audible improvement in my system from the insertion of one PC at the preamp. Last night I was listening to WFUV FM in NY, a listener sponsored station. They were playing Dylan's Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues from the epic album Highway 61 Revisited. I have heard this song hundreds of times, on my present and predecessor systems, in the car, etc. I thought I knew every note and instrument on this track, which has a lot going on instrumentally. But no!

Through a black wall of silence, I heard for the first time that there were TWO pianos, not just the one Al Kooper played, with distinctly different tones. Mike Bloomfield's guitar licks were more mellifluous, subtle and well-placed than I had ever realized. And I heard Dylan's breaths between his lines.

What more can I say for now about the LessLoss DFPC Ref, other than that I ordered another one. And I almost never buy new components. I have been at this mania for over 40 years, and to me this is a breakthrough product. No other cord or cable has had such a profound effect on the sound in my system.

I am finished gushing for now. No promises there will not be more when the cord is fully burnt in.

Again, I have no association whatsoever with LessLoss and receive no benefit of any kind for these comments, other than sharing a great experience with others, to give whatever weight they choose.

Neal

Neal,

I think very highly of the Valhalla cords too. If I were to demo my system to try to impress others, the Valhalla would be my go-to cord. I have just found that over the long haul, I can not live with them long term, as they tend to decrease my desire to listen for extended periods. I have tried them several times because they are so impressive initially, but I always seem to catch myself listening less often, I feel due to information overload on the brain, so out they go.....again. LOL! I found that in my system, the Stealth Dream provided most of the resolution of the Valhalla, but with just a hint of musicality that allowed me to use them over a longer term.

The Elrod's are a different animal altogether, more like the Purist Audio and Kubala Sosna power cords that I've owned. Full bodied and musical. Not as revealing and articulate as the Nordost or Stealth, but with more musical weight and power. I've yet to hear a cord that does it all. Those that provide more resolution tend to also be leaner, while those that add more weight tend to lack resolution. I tend to blend my cables and cords to try to get a little bit of both, but I probably lean more towards the warm side now than I did years ago, when I was chasing the higher resolution. Now I'm more about just relaxing and listening to music rather than having to hear that last minute detail in the recording. As always, YMMV.

Cheers,
John

To JMCgrogan2,

I actually think very highly of the Valhalla cords and find them different from the IC's which I also have in BR system. I find them more neutral and fuller bodied than IC's and eminently liveable.

I don't listen to an IC or PC for specifics, to be candid. First, I close my eyes and see if I say to myself: "That sounds really good." Then, I spend some time listening for irritating factors, e.g., too little bass, this or abrasive top end, pronounced mid's. Then I just spend some time and see if the smile continues.

So I cannot say if the soundstage or depth is better or worse then Elrod's; I can only say the LessLoss Ref is a step up IN THE GESTALT from what I have heard. I cannot imagine others not, at a minimum, being impressed. Whether y'all run out and buy one is a matter or personal taste and finances.

Cheers.

Neal

Thanks for the heads up Chuck, but I've seen that ad. I'm looking for a 20A cord at a good price, not a 15A cord at a bad price. LOL!

I am a big fan of the Sigs and trust Louis when he says this are a big step up, but curious as to what real world experience has been. As top of the line PC's go, $1,824 is not outrageous, and probably would be twice that if not sold direct.

Thanks,

Neal

John,

Just to let you know, there's a Running Springs Crown Jewel HZ ( CH Acoustic X15 ) on Audiogon right now.

http://app.audiogon.com/listings/ac-cables-running-springs-audio-hz-crown-jewel-15amp-power-cable-2014-02-07-power-48103

I've tried the LessLoss PCs. I'm not saying anything bad about the LessLoss, just that you need to give the CH Acoustic that you mentioned above a listen.

Chuck

Thanks Neal. Smoother and more natural than the Elrod cords? That's saying something. Does it present as deep and 3-D soundstage as the Elrod's? I wasn't much of a fan of the Audience and Kimber cords, I found them pretty bland.

The Valhalla could be stunning to demo, but I found that I could not live with it in the long term. Too much information, which led to shorter listening sessions as listener fatigue set in earlier and earlier. I am a big fan of the Elrod cords though. I've only heard the original LessLoss cord, and though it was good bang for the buck, it was not anything really special.

I have compared it to Nordost Valhalla, Elrod Statement and 2S, LessLoss Sig, an Audience cord whose model # I am not sure of, and Kimber PK10 Palladian.

The sound is smoother (with no loss of detail) and more natural, with more burn-in. In fact, even on analog FM (on a modded Sansui TU 9900), I am hearing instruments on familiar songs, that I had not noticed before. This really is a nice experience.

Neal

Could Be Interesting Reading :-)
I'm interested in more information as the PC breaks in and is used on different gear.

here the answer………

"I am a big fan of the Sigs and trust Louis when he says this are a big step up, but curious as to what real world experience has been. As top of the line PC's go, $1,824 is not outrageous, and probably would be twice that if not sold direct.

Thanks,

Neal"

HUM….

That sounds nice but I just auditioned a insane power cable in a real shootout, it is a prototype called Wardenclyffe Master Reference it was ten feet long and very big.
I tried it against a electraglide fatman an epiphany,a elco hpc 10. All these were six feet or 5 feet long.Note I have heard many others and these are better than most.
The Wardenclyffe cable had the most unbelievable bass power,speed, perfect timbre and pace.The transparency was amazing it made the system invisible,the soundstage deep and wide,if that wasn't enough the decay /ambient details were so much better that when a very complex passage that choked up the system with the other cables came along this just flush it out like being there live. The dynamics and delineation were superb. The separation of instruments and smoothness are also amazing. You had to hear it to believe it.It was like comparing a Vac statement 450 to a dynaco stock amp no kidding. I could not buy the prototype but will be buying the first one when it is ready. The designer is shooting for $750. His theory is no jewelry all performance.He will be using good connectors just not crazy priced over hyped stuff as it is not needed but that is what he is testing to see if there is one that is worth the bucks.

02-13-14: Timrhu
Inevitable?

Sure, you know, the inevitable release of the
LessLoss Signature Reference power cord. ;)

Inevitable?

I've read nothing but great things about the Less Loss PCs and am happy that you're enjoying it but be prepared for the inevitable. :-)

All the best,
Nonoise

Neal, thanks for the tip, I may have to investigate further. For clarification purposes, could you mention some other high end cords that you have compared these to, and how the new LessLoss bettered them? Stealth, Nordost, Elrod, Purist, CHacoustic, HiDiamond, etc.?

Cheers,
John