https://galibierdesign.com/wp-content/uploads/splicing_tutorial_stephen_r.pdf
@mr_gray , I use this method .
2020 update : JC Verdier La Platine
A recent encounter with a JC Verdier dealer as well as a recent Audiogon discussion thread led to the start of this thread. He was in my house updating my La Platine which had been in storage for ten years with thread and oil. While he has high regards for the deck, his newer clients nevertheless prefer a Techdas iii than an 'old' La Platine. Given the proliferation of expensive decks in the past dozen years, La Platine has become very much under-appreciated.
It's clear to me that the influence of the La Platine is everywhere to be found. Specifically, the magnetic suspension system that was employed 30+ years ago. Even SOTA offers their newer decks with mag. lev. features. And if you read this review: https://www.callas-audio.nl/Callas%20Platine%20Mod%20Kit%20Review.pdf, the Continuum Caliburn uses the same concept, which was not acknowledged in Fremer's review, albeit with more sophisticated , and expensive, execution.
It is also clear to me that there is much misunderstanding of the workings of the La Platine. I for one have contributed to this. The motor of the La Platine, for example, has been much maligned. The thread drive is another aspect of the turntable that have been described as inferior. With regard to the motor and thread drive, I have been set straight by Chris @ct0517 and Lyubomir @lbelchev. Experimenting with the different types of silk threads, the tightness to the platter and a renewed understanding of the soundness of the Philips motor have been rewarded with better dynamics and transparency.
The funny thing is that during the past two years of re-engagement with audio, I have questioned ownership of every components in my arsenal except the La Platine. It has always been a keeper. I wonder if La Platine owners would contribute to celebrating this 'old' deck with tales, advice, and insights?
Cheers!
It's clear to me that the influence of the La Platine is everywhere to be found. Specifically, the magnetic suspension system that was employed 30+ years ago. Even SOTA offers their newer decks with mag. lev. features. And if you read this review: https://www.callas-audio.nl/Callas%20Platine%20Mod%20Kit%20Review.pdf, the Continuum Caliburn uses the same concept, which was not acknowledged in Fremer's review, albeit with more sophisticated , and expensive, execution.
It is also clear to me that there is much misunderstanding of the workings of the La Platine. I for one have contributed to this. The motor of the La Platine, for example, has been much maligned. The thread drive is another aspect of the turntable that have been described as inferior. With regard to the motor and thread drive, I have been set straight by Chris @ct0517 and Lyubomir @lbelchev. Experimenting with the different types of silk threads, the tightness to the platter and a renewed understanding of the soundness of the Philips motor have been rewarded with better dynamics and transparency.
The funny thing is that during the past two years of re-engagement with audio, I have questioned ownership of every components in my arsenal except the La Platine. It has always been a keeper. I wonder if La Platine owners would contribute to celebrating this 'old' deck with tales, advice, and insights?
Cheers!
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i am now in correspondence with Thom Galibier. they provide la platine replacement motors. no real testimonials from la platine owners. anyway i have asked for a quote for a new drive. hopefully i can inform the group soon as it certainly seems to be one of the more thought out drive options. they have alot of thoughts on the topic and they seem to suggest coupling between motor and platter is the way to go with a goal to be like an idler drive but with just a little less noise and slightly more "give". they do state clearly that their priority is dynamics over lowest possible noise. i do wonder what is in the drive unit. is it a DC motor or an AC motor for example. |
@mr_gray , if you are talking about Galibier‘s motor drive, I believe they use DC motor! |
@mr_gray I think Thom contributed to this thread a while back. I would be interested to hear feedbacks from his customers who has adopted his motor to La Platine; maybe you could ask? |
will do if he ever replies to my initial enquiry. i cleaned up my platter. i didn't follow @dover great advice. i just used sone "gumption" (a cleaning paste). turns out most of the gunk was sticky tape residue i think from when it was posted to me. i also re-levelled. i then installed fresh silk thread. the wow and flutter numbers i got and speed stability were very good. best ever. wow down to 0.03 on the shaknspin2. the sound was amazing. even during the day it was amazing. late at night (after midnight) it was something else. there is the music. nothing mechanical is heard. the dynamics are great. the top end is great. the bass is great. it makes me wonder what i did to get here. i think essentially: - got the platine working as it should (no bearing contact) - levelled tonearm - rigid footers (motor and table) - double silk (gives a little bit and this seems ideal for current setup) - less variable platter diameter and smoother "release" of thread. previously lumpy and sticky - no good. next steps are: 1. try new motor i cobble together (AC synchronous with long dog speed controller) 2. try isoacoustics gaia feet on motor to see if less "chatter" is communicated to table (stethoscope says this should work) than when using CMS feet. |
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