2 subs?

This problem might be the suckout at 130 Hz to 170 HZ . This is probably due to the tuned pipe - 150 Hz is around 8 feet - so ceiling height may play a big role in the sound (does it excite the ceiling room mode for a boost or not) Since the pipe is ported out the bottom - try flipping the speakers the other way up and see what you get.

Don't throw any money at the problem until diagnosed. Send everyone to the movies and start moving the sub and speakers until you get a result, even if you can't leave them there. Than you'll know.

AudioFeil,

In your humble opinion am I better off choosing new speakers than trying to fix this problem with the druids by buying more subs?

The space between wall and Druid is not nearly as critical as the space between it and the floor regarding bottom end response.

You're experiencing the same problems I did with similar room conditions.

Dealer disclaimer

Yes the rooms have different ceiling heights. They sounded great in a standard rectangle room with wall to wall carpeting and 9' ceiling. They are now in a much more open room with ceiling height going from 10' to around 14'(shed roof). As well the side wall has many large floor to ceiling windows. Basically, the room is a large open family room to kitchen with hardwood floors, giant glass windows, and tall sloping ceiling. The system just sounds really really thin. As well, the Druids are only about a foot from the rear wall(cannot move out). I am thinking about changing speakers to something like the Gradient revolutions that seem to work better in poor rooms (but would like to fix the problem with the druids if i can).

Just curious but do the two rooms in question have different ceiling heights?

I had a similar problem when I moved a pair of Druids from a room with a 9' ceiling to a room with cathedral ceiling.

That is odd. Try adjusting the placement - you must have a nasty room modal suckout. How about PHASE - do you have left right or subwoofer out of PHASE!!!!

Those speaker drivers are a favorite for use in bass guitar amps and you have a BIG MAC driving them - the last thing one would expect is for them to sound thin.

If you can't eliminate the suckout by moving things or reeversing wires (PHASE) then you are going to need lots of bass trapping.

2 are better ,it loads the room better but it doesn't sound as it would help your current problem. Raising the crossover points on the subs may well make things worse. It sounds like you are getting cancellation of frequencies due to room reflections. Do you have a lot of glass in your new listening room? Are most of the walls highly reflective?You might want to try to damp them. Get a computer program that shows where to place the speakers or try moving them around the room. Experiment with angling them inward so their tweeter axis cross just ahead of your listening position. Don't buy anything before you attempt to see what is wrong with the room.

Google 'room mode calculator' and look for the Harman International White Paper on multiple subs.
'evens out the sound' is not quite exact. 2 subs can be located to excite room modes differently and in that way 'even out' the sound. The 'peak' nodes of one are where the 'low nodes' from the other are. The result is 'even'. People that tell you you can 'equalize' the problems away are non-starters. Just like a successful business Location, Location, Location. If the subs are located both the same, say mid wall on opposite sides of the room, you may not benefit from doubles. But, if you can manage some asymetry you can perhaps work it out.
I have the good fortune to have a listening room with 8 walls and an asymetric vaulted ceiling. I have a single, corner loaded sub which provides mucho even bass and is both musical and good for HT. AND, as a bonus, it is not a megabuck sub, but a modest HSU research VTF-2/mk3.

Work with what you got, first, before doing anything drastic which may PO the significant other.

I'll check out the Vandersteen site to see how well it agrees with what I read at Harman.......

If you were getting good performance before moving and the only thing that's changed is the room, you might try playing with your speaker location and set-up (toe-in) and your seating position. The new room is "the hand you are dealt" but if all else is the same, tis the different factor.
Suggest you try getting that a right as possible, before spending bucks on additional equipment.
Good luck!

If you do subs right, much less stress is put on your amps, so the sound is cleaner and clear without having your amps work hard for the lows. Two subs are good because it evens out the sound. For more information on this, go to Vandersteen's website.