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| Thiel Owners @mr_bill All time best Thiels are 7.2, 3.7, and, maybe 5. What is your budget? Keep in mind that Tom Thiel is planning upgrades for crossovers of many models, including 2.4 and 3.6. Could get a superb, updated Thiel at a great price (ie, used spea... | |
| Thiel Owners I am gathering the parts to start the 2.4 upgrade in earnest, including most caps, coils, and board from Tom Thiel. I plan to post a journal of the process, including pics. I don’t see a way to include pics on Audiogon, though. I might use audioas... | |
| Thiel Owners Sonic Craft has all the values for CS2.4, either Mills or Vishay-Mills. I imagine they can ship to Europe | |
| Thiel Owners @tomthiel Interesting that there are 3 iterations of the CS2.4 XO. It appears that, other than the Clarity SAs on the coax feeds, my SE version has the lowest parts quality of the 3! I suppose the sandcast resistors are equivalent for each iterati... | |
| Thiel Owners CS3.7 coax with the CS5 sealed bass for me ;^)Incorporate Tom Thiel’s ideas for crossover components.Tom Thiel would make the diaphragms of carbon. Anyone have $5M for a company start up? | |
| Thiel Owners Brand new 3.7s? Wow, nice! | |
| Thiel Owners @holco Your PCBs look a bit different than mine in that you have different brand caps. Mine are CYCs other than the Clarity SAs in the coax feed; yours might be Solen? Regardless, your cap quality looks superior to mine other than those Claritys. ... | |
| Thiel cs2.4 upgrade to cs 2.4 se Electrolytic caps (those 100 uF in a Thiel) will drift after, say, 15-20 years. But everything else should be good for even longer. As far as changing the character, yes, you can make the speaker sound even better by upgrading the quality of the p... | |
| Thiel cs2.4 upgrade to cs 2.4 se Replace with the same? Why? The only ones that will wear out are the electrolytics in the coax shunt position. In my SEs, these are CYC and those might be the last I would use in an upgrade. Erse has an affordable 100 uF metal polypropylene. And i... | |
| Thiel Owners @holco Regarding coils, as Tom noted, you need to verify whether your boards are point-to-point on masonite (made in Lexington) or PCB (made in China by FST). The coils values are slightly different for the latter to account for subtle changes in ... | |
| Thiel Owners Pretty sure you can get outriggers from Coherent Source Service. At the least, they are part of the kit to upgrade 2.4 to 2.4SE (which also includes the Clarity SA caps for the coax feed). | |
| Thiel cs2.4 upgrade to cs 2.4 se Regarding access to XOs for the 2.4, here are Rob Gillum’s instructions to me:“The crossover can be accessed through the passive radiator opening. The base is not removable, as it is screwed, and glued. To access the crossover, you must remove the... | |
| Thiel Owners @andy2 the initial build will replace coax board wire coils with foil. Woofer board coils will stay wire for now. Tom will make further consideration as he gains knowledge with his 2.2 and 3.6. | |
| Thiel Owners @holco Please note that neither Tom or myself have conducted our own resistor listening comparisons. The Mundorf was on the short list but the Mills rose to the top of the list based on engineering, subjective opinions, and price. If cost were not... | |
| Thiel Owners Judging from the Stereophile review and measurements (never heard on for myself), the New Thiel TT1 seems like a competent design. But why buy one? If I want a competent (but still sourced from the Far East) speaker using "conventional" engineerin... |