Speaker Choice for a larger room


Hey all.

I'm going through change in my system again. Whilst I'm in the selling mode presently, and won't be buying for a little while, I would like to start to plan out future purchases.
The main area of concern is finding a speaker that will couple effectively with my room.
The dimensions are 28' X 45' and the cathedral ceiling goes up to 28'
I'm using Maggie 3.6's presently, but plan on changing things around.
My musical tastes are Jazz, classic rock, some blues, some classical most anything that isn't country or rap.
What I want from my system is:
Scale - large open soundstage, good width and depth
Imaging - precise placement of images but with emphasis on 3 dimensional realism
Palpability - the sense of presence and quality of the midrange.
Bass extension isn't of absolute importance, as long as I get a good sense of authority and impact in the lower registers.
I prefer a warmer sound with more bloom and midrange presence over a brighter more analytical sound.

On my list are:
Aerial 20T's
Sonus Faber Cremona
Avantgarde Duo's
Wilson Sophia's
Kharma 1.0's
Soundlab A1's

From the above, I've only heard Kharma's so I may be off target with my wish list of sonic attributes, though I have owned Sonus Fabers, a smaller model, and they seemed to do much of what I like best.
I'm flexible on amplification at this point, but would lean toward tubes, something around 200 watts, perhaps the Antique Sound Lab Hurricanes.
Source is and will remain digital.

What can you suggest that would take full advantage of the larger listening space, and would also be effective in a smaller space (I may move house in 6 months or so).

Would appreciate any insights. Budget wise, the 20T's are as high as I would go (used $12000 ish)

Thanks

Rooze
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Thanks Cytocycle, I took a peak at your system there....nice job! The Wilsons look really classy in the Yellow finish. How did you finish up with speaker placement, did that position with them well into the room work out?

Cheers

Rooze
Hey Rooze,

Well, I thought I will stick with my Legacy Whispers for life. I have always been curious about the Avantgardes and when a local dealer had a preowed Duos for sale, I rushed to audition it. After the first few notes on Chuck Mangione's Feels So Good cut, I knew right away that I had to sell my Whispers. I sold the pair immediately and then a very nice pair of preowed Trios became available here and, after a prolonged negotiation with my wife (to divert some of the money due for my kid's college funds into these monstrous speakers), I was able to pick the pair up in New York and I know I am set for life with these fantastic loudspeakers. The Duos will make you feel a sense of connection with the music. Forget being over analytical and just really enjoy the music being played. You will be immersed with sheer musical pleasure with the performers having the "Breath of Life" right there in your presence!
Also, I just marvel at the fact that a mere 1 watt can power the Duos to room-filling levels. I am used to owning monstrous high-current, high-wattage amps and it took a while for me to accept that a few miniscule watts can produce such a magical experience that envelopes your whole body and caresses your soul. Again, just a suggestion for your consumption! All the best!
Rooze,
If you like what you heard from the Legacy's, I believe you'll really like the Tyler line. Ty's speakers are more refined, accurate, and nuetral than the Legacy's. I went from the 20/20's to the full Linbrook system & it was quite a big step up in performance. The millenium tweeter Ty uses is very open, airy, and detailed. The Linbrooks also provide a big soundstage. I went from the Linbrooks to the Woodmere's. The Woodmere's use the same tweeter but have a different design than the Linbrooks. The 10 inch woofer on top and bottom of the cabinet provide a more full sound with an endless soundstage.
Good luck with your decision.
Rooze,

I'm still playing with speaker placement right now so nothing is final, the imaging and depth with the system reversed like what is show in the last pictures is amazing but i'm sacrificing a bit of the bass response, but then again I still moving them to avoid the bass mode suckout in the room. This weekend I'll move them 1 foot closer.

No offense to the Legacy guy's but one of my friends did an in home demo of the $8000 legacy's (not the Whispers so this might not be relevant) but they were amazingly dynamic speakers but that forwardness and dynamic presentation began to wear you out and the driver integration wasn't quite like some of the other manufactures. Great home theater speakers though. The speakers were being powered by Manely 250 monoblocks.
i think the issue on your move needs to be resolved before you can consider a speaker as the room will always dictate the size of the speaker.if you happen to be in a large room like my room which is 22x16 with a cathedral ceiling that goes to 16.5 ft. as you can see there is alot of volume or air that needs to be moved and is open behind me another 24 ft. i went with the tyler acoustic woodmeres with the external xovers for sound reasons as well as additional flexability at a low upgraded cost. the external xovers also allows you down the road to apply a digital crossover and bypass the woodmere crossover for theoreticaly improved sound. as far as the woodmeres sound it is by far the best speaker that i have heard in my 27 yrs of the " hobby" i am using a tact audio millenium mk3 digital amp and afterwards changed the speaker wires from jps labs superconductor + to the paul speltz anti-cable. this combination simply elevated the woodmeres sound ten fold. i can only say that the music is now more realistic as well as the music presentation seems now to have been rearranged to where the 3d imaging is actually forming a image of the band and better places what is on the cd to where you can clearly hear the difference. going from cd to cd i am amazed at how these speakers present the music unlike any speaker i have ever owned. they have the openness of a electrostat with the great tight bass that even a good sub cannot match with a panel speaker. the woodmeres especially with the anti-cable in the right sized room and of course set up properly have given me the sound that i have been searching for and now have found . i believe the tact amp plays into the speakers sound to exhibit the extra degree of detail and openess that is not posssible in my opinion with conventional amps . these speakers are also amp friendly speakers, are not required to be way out in rooms like other big speakers so they are room friendly as well. in closing if feel the need to look for other speakers is now over, the search for the right speaker wire is over. so now its time to finally kick back and listen to the music which is a experience with each disc i listen to. congradulations to tyler acoustics and ty lashbrook for selling a speaker of this quality that if it were sold in a stereo store would retail for about $ 30-35000.00/pair but you can purchase them online for less than half that.now if that isnt the biggest bang for your dollars and ears well i do not know one better

good luck