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Question About NORDOST cables

I got a pair of Red Dawn II speaker cables. I was really impressed by these cable; the speed, dynamics, vocals - it's transformed the sound of my system. unfortunately not all is good; the bass suffered from a major roll off, and to make matter worse it's also lost its definition. really bad.

if it wasn't for the bass I'd hit the jack pot with these cables. I really like what's done to the system. in fact, I just got a pair of Heimdall's IC's. there's a general improvement, and the bass has also improved a little, but I feel like there's some kind of imbalance between vocals and other instruments.

the Red Dawn has to go. that's clear.

what I'm not sure of is whether I should stay with Nordost, and upgrade to the Heimdall's speaker cables, or move to something else. I'd really like to get the Siltech 330L, but is out of my budget atm. I can get the Heimdall now, or wait until have enough funds for the 330L's.

I really could with some other opinions/thoughts on the matter.
many thanks,

Massimo

speakers: Paradigm S1v3(P-Be)
youngatheart
ptmconsulting
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Half off pricing definitely points to Nordost trying to dump these, for some reason, I would guess. New model coming out, or perhaps trouble identified with the current model.

Where did you hear about phase shift with the bi-wire version? Could be due to the proximity of the 2 runs of cable to each other? So Nordost is not making any bi-wires anymore? That still doesn't explain why they are also discounting the shotgun version.

I feel bad for the guys who bought this at $1800 and are asking half price used. Now they have to trim that down by 30-50% again in the used market?
youngatheart OP
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@Xti16 -
are you saying that I should get a single run instead, and perhaps use jumpers instead?

@Mt10425 -
I hear you. that's a reason why I started this thread. I'm just not sure if I'd move to something else. fact is, Nordost's are superior cables; if wasn't for the shortcoming in the bass, I'd be really happy with the sound.

if the phase shift is real, then I think Nordost should return some kind of compensation - not a refund, but perhaps toward an upgrade.
youngatheart OP
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ok, just to give an update on this - just spoke with Music Direct about Nordost cables, and all Hiemdall's are sold out atm, and had to be ordered. however, heimdall's cannot be ordered in single runs, but the FREY's can.

so,I went ahead and ordered a single run of 2 metres Frey's speaker cables for $675. God damnit, I hope this will turn out to be good, or a quit this cables madness for good.

can someone recommend a set of jumpers for these cables. thanks!
xti16
1,525 posts
 
Youngatheart - Remember the Frey's are even better - but marginally. I would suggest jumpers - just don't know which ones. Didn't the Paradigm's come with factory jumpers?

As far as compensation from Nordost don't count on it. That could be part of why they are discontinued. The other reason the design is better. It could be too that only the new series 2 exhibit the phase shift. Could be why Synergistic Research adds a jumper to the end of the cable for their bi-wire configuration??
so,I went ahead and ordered a single run of 2 metres Frey's speaker cables for $675. God damnit, I hope this will turn out to be good, or a quit this cables madness for good.
I thought you were looking for a pair of cables. Anyhow it will be a lot better than a Red Dawn.
xti16
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Bi-wire or not has been hashed over time and time again
http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?fcabl&1328477568&&&/to-biwire-or-not-
There never seems to be a winner in any of the discussions
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