I’m considering upgrading my speakers internal wiring


I’m looking for objective input because I’m not sure if I’m really OCD. 
I have a beautiful pair for PBN M1!5 in a Black finish which I love and sound incredible.  Peter builds high quality equipment with nothing spared. I think we spend thousands on speaker cables and transport and everything that gets to the binding posts….. And then ? Internally it’s not so great. 
I’m considering re-wiring including binding posts to all Cardas ..

What are some thoughts.  

bobbyloans

@bobbyloans 

Quality of internal and external wiring is meaningful in all of the components in our system.  I would say the odds are very good that you would find internal wiring for your speakers that would make a noticeable improvement,  

However your system is likely already tuned to your liking and introducing another variable in hopes of improved sound is not a sure thing.  

Since bulk cabling is relatively inexpensive I would suggest you buy at least (3) different brand specs of wiring and give each one a trial.  

Once you find the one you prefer, I would even solder the wire directly to all terminals.  

Lots of work but how would you feel if the first set didn't work out? 

Well this has been a fun ride my friends!

who knew a some

little topic would generate so much activity.  I guess it’s really important to see everyone who loves this “hobby”; which is much more than just that would bring so much enjoyment and happiness to us all. 
Thamknyou all again and I’ll report back once I’ve made a decision and my results 

 

Bobby 

@bobbyloans The final two feet?  How about the final two inches?  Consider, no matter how thick a gauge wire you install inside the enclosure, any crossover components still have tiny leads, which if you're lucky are tinned copper, but could be copper-clad steel or worse.

OP - Much good advice here.

Quick suggestion:

If you decide to proceed, do one speaker at a time. 

Listen to the differences (if any) while playing a variety of HQ mono recordings. 

Try a few setup locations: 

1) Next to each other if you can switch L/R channels on & off remotely. Reverse the locations in case of room interactions. 

2) Pull one speaker out to the sweet spot & listen for a while. Then switch them. 

You won't get the stereo image / soundstage in this format, but it could allow you to assess other virtues and vices. 

Try not to ruin them both at the same time ;-) 

Just thinking... 

Ken 

@bobbyloans i’ve gone down the rabbit hole of upgrades from every direction and if you are inspired to do any particular thing, I would certainly not stop you… However

A big upgrade that many people miss out on is simply addressing the AC power in your system. This avoids alteration of the equipment which you might sell someday anyway, and gives you some forever new equipment that will be much bigger than the wire in your speakers

In my opinion, and from thousands of hours experimenting ... the place to begin and best value in audio upgrades is a Shunyata Theta 2.25 m AC cable

Even one of these will change your system for the better

If you’d like to voice the system, a little brighter go 2,0 or 1.75m

if you’d like a little bit more on the low end, go with 3 m

if you have more than $1000 to spend, Shunyata research has many power distribution products which are all very effective and have no artifacts on the downside, which can't be said of the offerings from other companies in the power business.  Also, comparatively to the field, the Shunyata stuff is not only better. It's very reasonably priced.

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and definitely ignore anyone who says that speaker wire or AC cable wire doesn’t matter, these well meaning people either haven’t done the work or they don’t have a system sufficiently resolving to hear what’s going on…

Every single thing matters it’s just a question of degree.