If you have a nice system why do you really need room treatments?


Yeah you may need an absorption panel if your room is completely open, ie. No rug or furniture, ie just lonely single chair. But if your system can't cut it in any room then it's a system problem and you should be able to discern a good system regardless of the room.  Unless you put it on the roof of your apartment building but the Beatles seemed to have survived that effort

I think people go nuts with all this absorption acoustical room treatment stuff and it looks kind of awful.  Once in a while you see a really cool looking diffuser panel and I would definitely want one. But to have a system that works really well without any of the acoustical panel distractions is a wonderful thing.

emergingsoul

I hardly think of a room filled with furniture is considered a treated room. Certainly it offers acoustical benefits.

The title of the thread does not suggest the system would be placed inside an empty room. It merely suggests that good systems, or really good systems, may do an excellent job regardless of acoustical panels, or‘treatments’ placed about the room.

Reaching to a textbook to help figure out whether a situation sounds good or not may be helpful to some but I trust my ears to tell me what’s going on. I just feel people go nutty with acoustical treatments sometimes and somehow people are inclined to put a lot of acoustical panels all over the place. And gradually the room changes it may not always be for the better and people may not really recognize this. I’m tempted to remove the corner bass traps to see how things might change but that’s a pain to do, so for now I’m hopeful they benefit things. My curve for the subs seems perfect, I guess you could say this is a helpful confirmation but I really didn’t need to see it based on what I was hearing. I’ve learned to trust what I can hear. I still would like to find a nice diffuser panel but having trouble finding one I like, and I'm not sure how much it will really do.

@emergingsoul

"Adding an additional absorption panel in a 20 x 18 room that’s furnished is extremely hard to discern. Maybe Superman hearing would do it."

"Reaching to a textbook to help figure out whether a situation sounds good or not may be helpful to some but I trust my ears to tell me what’s going on.....My curve for the subs seems perfect, I guess you could say this is a helpful confirmation but I really didn’t need to see it based on what I was hearing. I’ve learned to trust what I can hear."

 

One minute you state you need Superman hearing to determine the impacts the next you’ve learned to trust what you hear. You constantly contradict yourself ,and frankly dig yourself deeper in the lack of credibility hole.

 

 

 

This thread was utter nonsense from the start and has only gotten worse and more pointless so why keep adding to it?  Please just let it die. 

So I guess treating a room with acoustical panels Will provide a benefit. This is news. So many great enthusiastic people have led me to rethink my position. I thank everyone for helping me overcome my fear of adopting a more liberal view about acoustical treatments.

Now if only someone could help me deal with Leaf blower noise throughout the day from neighbours who are too lazy to deal with lawn issues with a rake. And just why are we using leaf blowers in the middle of the summer when there’s no leaves? Because blades of grass somehow have taken over. Proliferating use of leaf blower noise is a serious problem. Ever noticed bird populations have declined quite a bit and a lot of it has to do with leaf blower noise throughout a community. Further if you have allergies they are probably a lot worse because of all the leaf blowers kicking up so many particles. I’d mention the environment because of the gas powered Leaf blower engines but people don’t care about the environment much anymore. They can't use mufflers because it would impact the flow of air and we wouldn't want that to happen.

I haver at least a decent system (see my profile and decide for yourself). My modest addition of some acoustical treatment in 2023, consisting of some absorption panels and some diffuser panels yielded a surprisingly pleasant and budget friendly improvement (the cost of the absorbers and diffusers was less than the cost of just one of the balanced interconnects I use between various components). 

YMMV