ribbons vs domes and sibilance


I came upon a thread from the DiyAudio site titled "Can you have sparkling treble but without sibilance?" from 2011. The discussion is very technical and as such, completely over my head but one participant asserted that ribbons are far less prone to sibilance than domes. 

Here's an excerpt for the technically minded: :

... the middle of the dome basically flops about doing it's own thing at high frequencies as it's only very loosely coupled to the edge because of it's own less than infinite stiffness. Thus any distortion or resonances that occur due to the middle of the dome bending and moving in non-piston ways are not reflected back to the amplifier via back EMF... when the ribbon is only 8mm wide compared to a 25mm dome, there is far less narrowing of dispersion with increasing frequency than a dome. The directivity control is achieved with a wave-guide instead. This is why a wave-guide loaded ribbon can achieve an almost constant 90 degree horizontal dispersion from 2Khz right up to 20Khz - the ribbon element itself is far less directional horizontally at high frequencies than a dome, with the wave-guide then adding in a constant directivity control.

I'm wondering whether any forum members have compared speakers with domes and ribbons in regard to sibilance and arrived at any conclusions. 

stuartk

I’d imagine, as with most things in audio, that there are tradeoffs somewhere otherwise one technology would win out and become ubiquitous, which is clearly not the case.  Speaking with a well-known, high-end amp designer, when I asked him why he used bipolar versus MOSFET output devices he said he could use either and it usually comes down to which the designer is more comfortable using.  It’s probably something similar in deciding which type of tweeter design to use.

Another problem with exotic tweeters (design or materials used) is that they often dictate the type of crossovers used. Not a fan, so far, of either ribbons or AMT type tweeters. I still prefer silk domes.  

OK. I suspected what I’d read was overly simplistic and comments here appear to be consistent with my suspicion. 

 

I'd prioritize the causes of sibilance by first, electronics, then room acoustics, cabling and lastly the speaker.  Back in the day I found that mid priced phono cartridges had that hifi clarity and crispness but at the expense of increased sibilance.  I wanted to blame my speakers.  Then I bought a high end phono cartridge and one of the differences I found was that the highs were smoother and sibilance was gone.  I still had that crisp, clean clarity but no sibilance.  

Fast forward some decades and I have found the same truth with digital.  Changing out cables or dampening the room can reduce sibilance but at the sacrifice of clarity.  I found a better DAC was the best solution to eliminating sibilance.  Still have that clarity and crispness but the fatiguing "SSSS" is gone.  Didn't have anything to do with the speakers.  Sure, a few recordings are out there with a hot mic but even those are much less irritating than before.