Need a big favor picking a preamp


I recently tried out an Esoteric E-02 phonostage and have decided to buy one.  (It was a big step up from a Parasound JC3+, which surprised me.)  I'm working on my preamp stage now, and tried out a Dan D'Angostino Momentum HD preamp and the Exoteric Grandioso C1X

 

Dan's preamp was fantasic, but I makes me feel like I need to be wearing several gold chains when using it.  Perhaps also a toupee and some gold nugget rings.  "Gaudy" is the word when I look at it. 

 

I also tried out a Esoteric Grandioso C1X, which was fantastic, but a bit cold, and much of my system is already Esoteric Grandioso, and it's getting a bit fanboyish.   Unfortunately I did not have it when I tried out the E-02, but I assume the two would be excellent together.

I would say the D'Angostino preamp is "more musical", while the Esoteric more "more precise".

There's a third contender I have never heard on my system, but loved when I heard elsewhere on a similar system -- Nagra HD preamp -- it had the precision of the Esoteric and had just a tad bit of tube sound.  It's also startlingly expensive.

I tried out several others that just didn't fit my system: Pass Labs being one, which surprised me.

So, please advise:

D'Angostino Momentum?

Esoteric C1X

Nagra HD

 

The downstream are two Classe Delta Monoblocks, Bowers 800s, SVS PB16 ultras.  Upstream Digital: Esoteric K-03XD and Lumin U1  Upstream Analog: Esoteric E-02 and alternating between a VPI Titan and Esoteric Grandioso turntable.

Current preamp is a Prima Luna Evo 400, which I love the looks of, and punches WAY above its weight for the price, but it's time to go.

 

 

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Well, I've made a decision and pulled the tigger.  Two triggers, in fact.

I want to thank everyone for their input and advice.  I learned about several brands and products I'd never heard of -- or had forgotten about.  I seriously looked at every single one of each of your recommendations, and tried out a few, either in a show room or in my system.  Even stole my daughter's LTA Microzotl (which, for whatever reason, thought of as a headphone amp) for an evening.

The Vinnie Rossi  Brama Meiter is stunning-looking and well-reviewed and the one that I could not audition because I couldn't find one located where I could reasonably justify to the IRS (and my board) firing up the company plane and checking out.  It will forever be the pretty girl with whom I didn't get to dance. 

The runner-up was the Audio Research Reference 10, a late entry here, of which there are numerous used examples for very reasonable prices.  I borrowed a buddies, and it is extremely good.  Very crisp.   He also brought in a Van den Hul The Grail SE (the one with the two power supplies).  I fell in love with this Phono Preamp.

Fourth place was the Dan D'Agastino's RELENTLESS (not Momentum).  I could only find it new and the dealer wanted more than MSRP.  I also couldn't try it out on my system and had to rely on a studio audition.  It has a distinct "house" sound, which, if you like it, that's great. B

The Esoteric Grandioso (C01X?) fell to third.  It has all the right bits, but something wasn't right, and we did blind A-B testing.

The winner was the Nagra HD preamp.  It had my objective list of requirements: true dual mono, fully balanced inputs and outputs, and just outstanding sound. Even used (at $36K) it was ~2X more than the Audio Research (used) it was superior.  But when I paired it with the Vdh The Grail SE, it was pure magic.  The two work exceptionally well together.

 

So anyway, I ended up buying the Nagra HD today (sending check Monday) -- and ended up buying a VdH Grail SE phono stage unexpectedly.

 

Happy listening, everyone.   And thanks for all your help.

Congratulations!!  Way to go!! You will be delighted with this product for a long long time!!  Keep us posted on your set up and share some pics!!

 

Woots

An excellent choice!  You will not be disappointed.  In my experience, the Nagra HD was a bit thin in the mids in my system relative to the Jubilee.  But it is fast and precise on the front edge of transients.

Enjoy!!!

"Vinnie Rossi  Brama Meiter "

No "bad" choices at your $ level. Enjoy it.

Nice looking, checks all the boxes.