Ultimate Turntable search...OMA K5 or ?


As the title says, I’m on the hunt for a statement turntable. Don’t really post on the forum so forgive me if this has been discussed already. I’ve been told that whatsbest might be another place to post about this but I’ve been a seller on this site for many years, so I figured it was a good place to start.

I’m a longtime Caliburn owner but it’s time for a change. I would like to ditch the belt drive and vacuum. I know Fremer loves the OMA K3, but the K5 has got my attention. After owning many different speakers, a friend of mine turned me on to OMA. I ended up buying a pair of OMA mini’s about ten years ago and then quickly moved up to the AC-1. I’ve had a wonderful experience dealing with Jonathan and the company and love their aesthetic. With the AC-1s, my main system has reached a level of musicality and presence I never thought possible. I’ve recently come to the conclusion that upgrading my front end is my next big move. So I’ve been doing a ton of research on turntables in this class.

Although I’ve owned OMA speakers for years, I haven’t heard any of their new table designs. Sadly, I have not been to any shows or showrooms since covid. I do plan on visiting OMA sometime in the next few months, but for now, I’m interested if anybody has real life experience with the K3/K5 and if you have listening notes or opinions to share? Also curious to hear thoughts on competive turntables in this class. I have heard many high end tables in person, but definitely not all. Thanks!

mattdrummer

Dear @lewm : " So it’s quite likely to exceed SP10 Mk3 and SP10R specs in its performance. "

At the K3 price not only should be with better specs than the SP10MK3 but over the Pioneer Exclusive P3a that shows: 0.001% speed and 95db in signal to noise ratio.

 

Of course that no one ( and I mean it ) can discern betqeen 0.001% on speed stability against 0.02% or between 95db and 88db in signal to noise ratio for TTs but this is not the main issue but that those 2 specs speaks by it self the TT true quality level. With that specs the customer is not buying just at " random " trusting only on the manufacturer words in the site advertasing.

I think that any of those expensive TTs manufacturers must be and should be talk a little less and show up with the reality on measured quality level performance, this is not about $ but honest for the customers of each one of them. If not at the end : what are we buying?.

 

If we buy a Ferrari that car manufacturer shows and you can corroborate where are your money that paid for it. Well only an opinion.

 

R.

If you've never had the experience of listening to a Kronos turntable in a properly assembled high end system, you're in for a treat. As most of you are probably aware, the Kronos turntables incorporate a counter rotating platter beneath the primary platter. First and foremost, the difference this makes is staggering. You can immediately hear the difference dynamic stabilization makes. Colorations we've all come to expect as part of the analog experience are eliminated. No other turntable offers this advantage. Combine this with numerous advancements in resonance control and drive systems, and you have something very special. If you want an endgame turntable the Kronos Discovery Turntable with the Discovery RS Arm and D-SCPS Power Supply is simply the best I have ever experienced.  

Yes heard the Kronos at Axpona last year with Vivid speakers if I recall and wasn't impressed in that room. Yes it was under show conditions. What turntable impressed me? The Reed in the Axiss Audio room using a Reed tonearm. Just my opinion YMMV

Dear @mattdrummer  : As you left clear prority belongs to transiente response characteristic directly related first to the cartridge and then to the TT speed accuracy and continuos stability. I know that you want DD but this very well regarded UK manufacturer shows to you/us not only " words " about but " incredible "  thrid part measurements and I said " incredible " because the TT is BD one. Yes the SME 60:

 

" S peed stability has been a given with previous SME turntables, but the switch from DC to AC motor drive has taken its Model 60 to another level. Its ~0.005% absolute speed accuracy and mere 0.01% peak-weighted wow (fig.1) are comparable with the best of today’s direct-drive offerings, including Technics’s fabulous Grand Class SL-1200GAE. Few other belt-drive decks get this close. Minor flutter modes at ±12Hz, ±33Hz, and ±65Hz (also visible on the unweighted rumble spectra, fig.2) amount to no more than a peak-weighted 0.02%. Furthermore, the sintered bronze bearing, with its oil-damped ball, is so precisely machined and polished that both through-groove and through-bearing rumble are truly state of the art, at –75.5dB and –76.5dB (DIN-B–weighted, ref. 5cm/s), respectively. The impact of the screw-down record weight/clamp is limited to a mere ±0.1dB variance on the through-groove measurement; replay from less flat vinyl discs may benefit more meaningfully. The Series VA tonearm’s spring-loaded downforce dial is calibrated to within ~2% over a 0–3gm range (1gm = 1.02gm; 2gm = 2.05gm of actual downforce). Although the Series VA tonearm’s design is based on the Series V, the new polymer armtube brings the effective mass down closer to 10gm. While this might render the Series VA slightly less compatible with heavier, low-compliance MCs, the current trend for slightly more relaxed MC suspensions—in pursuit of improved tracking—actually makes the VA more relevant. The sidemounted oil bath is retained in case additional damping of especially excitable pickups is required. As with the Series V, the VA’s bearings are free of any perceptible play and for our purposes are essentially frictionless (<5mg in both planes). Resonances within the arm itself are resolved into just two components: a bending mode at 105Hz with a harmonic at 270Hz (structural harmonics are not necessarily integer multiples) and another, higher-Q, resonance at 450Hz. The freedom from more complex resonances, and general clutter, is quite remarkable (CSD waterfall, fig.3).—Paul Miller MEASUREMENTS Fig.2 Unweighted rumble from DC-200Hz (with clamp, blue; without clamp, black), all ref. 1kHz at 5cm/s. Fig.1 Wow and flutter re. 3150Hz tone at 5cm/s (plotted ±150Hz, 5Hz per minor division). Fig.3 Cumulative spectral decay spectrum illustrating the tonearm’s various bearing, pillar, and “tube” vibration modes 100Hz–10kHz over 40"

 

As any one can see the SME is not only a contender against way more expensive TTs but a true/real challwenge extremely hard to beat it. There are not only " words " but measurements that till the other TT manufacturers show it can puts any one in shame.

 

Matt, at the ned this is a serious alternative where you don't buy by kilogram.

 

Btw, Other that SME only TTs made in Japan ( CS Port/Esoteric) shows specs ( words . ) but SME not only shows but real time measurements from a truly experts TT manufacturer with experience for more than 50+ years building different TTs: it's not a " new kid in the block ". SME is a true warranty of true whole quality, nothing less and second to none.

 

R.

One more note on Kronos. I'm not the only one that has discovered the amazing performance of a Kronos turntable. Kronos has become the reference turntable for a good number of reviewers and manufacturers that use them to review audio products and build audio products. And most importantly these industry folks have purchased them to simply enjoy their music. To name but a few; Editor-in-Chief of Positive Feedback - Dr. David Robinson, The Audio Analyst/Senior Editor Positive Feedback/Senior Editor Enjoy the Music.com - Greg Weaver, Senior Editor Positive Feedback - Marshall Nack, Freelance Audio Reviewer - Maurice Jeffries, Von Schweikert Audio, Magico Audio, Kubala-Sosna, Goebel High End, and the list goes on. Contact GTT Audio to learn more!