High End System Building. How important is the matching, cabling and room? Thoughts ?

You are completely right ...

Synergy matter first and last for sure...

Nobody will build an acoustic room around non synergetical components...

It takes to much time to do acoustic without first owning a relatively well done synergy...

Synergy is so basic that it appear evidently even in a non controlled room , and even when the other faqctors electrical and mechanical had been adressed...

But it is so evident i mention almost never synergy when i spoke about the three main embeddings controls : acoustical,electrical and mechanical...We must own a system BEFORE optimizing it ...Then we ask for a minimal synergy and embeddings controls optimization begin after that ...

evon when they spec compatibly, some components sound better together than others. 

some components that sound great together are just ok otherwise. ive heard beautiful sounds from entry level rega components working together. the same entry level rega components are so-so individally. not sure what to make of it, but i sure heard it. i believe thats synergy. 

i have 2 systems, and theyre both a mix. the pieces work together some awys much better than others. 

Calvin +1 , I agree with you . Money can’t shortcut this hobby. You can afford expensive components but they need to match. Cables are very important in matching from digital , pc to speaker cables. You can’t buy listening skills either. Mike Lavigne has it all, amazing systems , room, great wealth of knowledge and money.

jayctoy Cables are very important in matching from digital , pc to speaker cables.

In my opinion, if audio cables are made properly, all cables sound the original music and cable matching is not needed. However, all cables are not made properly and sound different. Even same model/brand power cords made by a same person in a same day sound different each other because no one knows how to make PC properly. Everybody (Audio companies, DIYers, any electrical part manufactures) know how to make PCs and that is the limit and not enough to make proper audio PCs. That’s why audiophiles keep changing equipment and wishing for a good luck in matching cables. Alex/WTA

The "dealer" would rarely tell you that...he may be all about "matching" expensive crap with other expensive crap and constantly capitalizing on the poor dude’s constant disgruntlement.

@deep_333 i have a hard time believing this.  I’m sure there are unscrupulous dealers out there but anyone reputable who is trying to build a business should be considering the clients room and anything else the client is looking for.  Happy clients mean repeat business and all.  I’ve worked for an unscrupulous boss before and it made it hard to make sales (was in the arborist trade for a while).  Maybe I’m projecting how I would approach sales, although, I hope most dealers have more probity.

I would  have expressed  that in a more cautious way myself even if i agree with the post ...

Most dealers are like audiophiles here with 40 amplifiers behind them and 50 dac and as much speakers experience , they know the gear , but they dont know much about the importance of acoustics ( i dont spoke about a few panels here ) and about electrical noise floor controls or mechanical vibration/resonance problems ... r : tThey they advise ANYWAY the customers as the customers ask for : the  gear attention is  focussed on the gear piece it is not focussed  on  the way to embed acoustically , mechanically and electrically anything, because  price tag and the piece  matter no more here ...Anything at any price must b3e well embedded to work optimally ...And the diffrence is always huge for any piece at any price ...This dont means that my low price active speakers even modified will rival Revel Salon well embedded ...

As said mike lavigne in his own way in another priceless post , HIGh-END is more a state of the creative mind than a price tags race ....

jastralfu

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12-31-2023 at 03:02pm

The "dealer" would rarely tell you that...he may be all about "matching" expensive crap with other expensive crap and constantly capitalizing on the poor dude’s constant disgruntlement.

@deep_333 i have a hard time believing this. I’m sure there are unscrupulous dealers out there but anyone reputable who is trying to build a business should be considering the clients room and anything else the client is looking for. Happy clients mean repeat business and all. I’ve worked for an unscrupulous boss before and it made it hard to make sales (was in the arborist trade for a while). Maybe I’m projecting how I would approach sales, although, I hope most dealers have more probity