Do I Need a Dedicated Streamer?


Hello everyone,

As the title states, I am still unsure of if I need a dedicated streamer and if it would increase the fidelity of my music compared to how I am listening at the moment. Which is using AirPlay 2 from my iPhone to my Hegel H590 Integrated amp.

 

I know that the DAC in the Hegel H590 is considered quite good and it was one of the reasons that I bought the amplifier to begin with. However, would I get a better input using a dedicated streamer for around $1000 (such as the Cambridge CXNV2 for example) or would I be better off leaving things as is?

I am just not sure if airplaying music to the Hegel is degrading the signal in comparison to a streamer that would pull its own data and send it directly to the amplifier? Also, would improving my router placement and wifi signal make any difference to the sound since my Hegel is hardwired using a mesh wifi system?

 

I am open to switching streaming platforms if I can gain something out of it such as resolution but I’m not sure if apple music is the issue in any of this.

 

If the answer to the title is a no. I am curious what I would need to take the quality of my listening experience to the next level or where money would be better spent to achieve that. I do have acoustic panels in my room and have done my fair share of research on speaker placement already.

 

The only thing that I have been considering in the near-future would have to be the isoacoustics gaia 1 feet.

 

My equipment:

Hegel H590 Integrated

KEF Reference 5 Meta

Metra Velox Speaker Cables

 

Thanks for reading.

danb99

I too am having trouble with streaming, I wish someone could explain to me the actual flow of data and how it gets into my system.

Have a Peachtree Audio Decco 125 Sky that has a streamer built in. It sends out a wifi address that uses a web page to connect to my wifi network using an app like Audio Pro then allows me to log into Qobuz and stream. I can also use Airplay to connect to the streamer directly. Using the link approach with the AP app has been a constant struggle, dropping the signal and losing control of the stream.

If I use the app approach the signal is coming directly from my main wifi signal and into the streamer and the app is just controlling the Qobuz and if I use Airplay my main wifi is connecting through my computer/phone and sending the data(not at the maximum resolution) to the streamer wifi signal directly. Using Qobuz directly on computer or phone connected directly to my main wifi soulds great, with no clitches. Bandwith is not an issue, usually at least 800mbps.

Would a better streamer connect directly to my main wifi and let me control it through bluetooth? Qobuz says next year they will allow me to connect directly from the app, assume this is how spotify connect works? Although I can select my output from Qobuz now (using Airplay?) Thanks in advance for any guidance.

Re: WiFi vs. wired or external streamer USB to DAC vs combo DAC and streamer the issue is the same: WiFi receivers and DACs generate a lot of electronic noise both inherently and via their power supplies.  WiFi especially as it is also a transmitter.

it’s best to isolate each link in the chain.

So, for example, plugging your streamer into a WiFi satellite is just as good (signal dependent) as a direct line, assuming reasonable data speeds.

The benefit is that space of 4-5 feet.  

if your super paranoid, you can even get a grounded surge protector for CAT6 cable from Amazon for $40.  Not sure it would help signal, but might save equipment from a freak accident.  (I would do this if your streamer is plugged into your router and then cable.  That’s not that remote of an accident.)

@caslon 

Do you have separate 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz Wi-Fi networks set up on your wireless router? Sometimes connection problems between two devices can happen when they're roaming between the two frequency bands.

If using Roon (highly recommended) get a dedicated music server and for me it can down to interconnects and power cords.   I went for a combined steamer DAC and solved all my streaming interupts and connection problems.  

I have a streamer/dac, lumin x1, and A nucleus for roon. And this connects into my Gat cj pre-amplifier. The lumin is superb and using a separate Dac which I have I wanted to avoid due to all the additional interconnect crap and all the temptation to periodically replace the dac. I don’t find this necessary anymore and see no value in doing it. So the inclusion of a dac within the streamer in this case ideal and it took a while to find it and was well worth the search.

a Streamer does mystical things that most have no clue about. The nucleus houses an operating system necessary to operate roon. And then you got the endpoint within the streamer that again does mystical things to allow all the necessary machinations to transform Data flow coming in from the nucleus. I think it Hass to do with a bitstream and clocking and changing the compression rates and all kinds of crazy stuff and no one really understands except those few who actually do.

Do you need a streamer to do quality work on your music? probably yes.