Have we lost civility and respect on Audio forums?


I think we have.  I have seen many discussion on audio forums and how nasty they can become when you have people disagreeing. Seems like there are a lot more know it alls now. I been in 20 years and I can still learn.  But I also know I know quite a bit. Like cables can enhance the sound and higher end well designed gear can truly be ear candy special.  Is this just on audio forums or the internet period. 

calvinj

“So if you hear a difference with your basic cables compared to others out there, you won’t believe your own ears until you find a way to measure it?”

If I can reliably identify a difference under controlled listening I would believe I heard a difference. By the way, I did not say all cables sound the same. Some are actually colored.

If you could not reliably identify a difference between your cables and basic cables under controlled listening tests would you believe your ears?
Better yet, since for all I know your cables may actually be audibly colored. If I took an original hi res file and the same file that has been run through a basic cable a pro DAC using a stock Uber thin power cord, another basic cable, a pro ADC with a basic power cord, run that to a basic CPU/ server powered by a stock power cord through yet another basic cable and repeated that cycle ten times. So in the end the recording has been run through 30 basic cables, 10 basic CPUs/servers, 10 pro DACs, 10 pro ADCs powered by 30 stock power cords all run through basic power strips. If you could not reliably tell the difference between that 10th generation hi res file that has been through all those allegedly highly colored stages and the original file would you believe your ears?

”It must suck to be you.”

 

Hate to disappoint you but life is good. But more to the point, I am enjoying audio far far more now than I ever did when I bought into all the BS and was wasting enormous amounts of money on “state of the art high end” cables and power conditioners that only provided a buyers euphoria and no real improvement in sound. Once I got off that merry go round and started focusing on things that matter, using basic understanding of measured performance and correlations between that and personal preferences, and pursuing cutting edge technology both the quality of sound and the enjoyment of my system went up by leaps and bounds.

 

 

@wharfy you are so right. I had to order another driver. They were special made. 800$. I had to spend 200 getting it repaired. But it is as good as new. Some of them are angry. Mad to be mad. Mad cause you spent a lot on your system. Mad because we won’t let them tell us how stupid we are for doing it! Just mad. Just nasty. Wouldn’t dare talk this tough in person. Lol.  Funny. 

@calvinj -Mad is as mad does. The irony is music brings the performers and listeners joy. 

David

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He is not a troll ... He said it himself in a post above ... Stop calling everybody who dissent with you trolling ...

He was only someone who was credulous enough to buy anything very costly and did not take it lightly when he discovered the hard way that price tags dont equate acoustics knowledge ...Read his posts ...

Then if i read him correctly he embarked in a crusade even against his will against audiophiles and audiophile market products putting all of them in the same bag ...Like a children reacting to a negative experience always in the same way without any discerning ability ...

Now he does not even believe his ears if he is not doubly blind ...Amazing human !

The very interesting part of his audio life , the BACCH filters , he dont spoke about it much here , too busy to impose double blind test to any cables owners and repeating the same song ...

He is not nasty but polite as much as most of us by the way ...Blindly opinionated is not being nasty ...

We must stay civil and polite ... Arguments matter ... Name calling is childish ...

If i criticize in one sentence his saying i will say that it is complete misunderstanding of science to impose in any one listening room the same standard protocol on the listener than in a laboratory... The way we listen music is necessarily in a relaxed way in our own subjective world ... Meaningful acoustic experience of someone relaxing in his room cannot be negated as such because it is "unscientific" ...

Sound experience can be objectively parametrized and it is, thanks to great engineers and physicist ,  but it stay also a pure subjective experience ...

It is not taste, but taste there is ....😁

 

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Why do you people keep feeding this SW troll. He is a nasty little fellow.