when your hearing is not as good as it was . . .


I'm 68, and too much loud live rock contributed to what they call mild-to-moderate hearing loss. So.

What will no longer make a difference in terms of my components? What can I sacrifice, because I can no longer hear it? 

Will Bluetooth sound the same from my DAC vs going through my preamp for example? 

Can I hear the diff between a tube (Freya) and solid state preamp? 

Can anyone share their experience and if they've done anything to their systems? 

mendef

I'm also 68 and my hearing is about average for someone my age. I recently played a test CD and I can still hear 12K Hz but that's about it. I went to many loud concerts in my youth but I learned early that earplugs make the experience much more pleasant. I smoked in those days and tearing off the filters from a couple of cigarettes and stuffing them in my ears worked reasonably well. Later I discovered Etymotic earplugs and wore the religiously at loud events..

To answer your question - no, my high frequency hearing loss has not led to any changes in my system. I will readily admit that I can't hear the subtle differences that other audiophiles seem to hear but that has always been true. I can't hear the difference between interconnects but I couldn't hear the difference 30 years ago either. I've got several DACs, two transports, and a couple of players ranging in price from $800 to $20,000 and they sound extremely similar. I couldn't guarantee that I could tell them apart in a blind test. But I've been to three audio shows and I can certainly tell you that I can distinguish between mediocre systems and very good ones. I also discovered that my system holds its own against most of the six figure systems I've heard even though my speakers, amp, and preamp, are late 90's vintage.

I had an interesting experience in the Synergistic room at AXPONA in 2018. They had a very nice setup with big Magico speakers and they did 3 before/after tests. For the little HFT thingies I couldn't hear any difference but I would say that most people in the room felt they could hear the effect. I talked to several other people who were younger than me who couldn't hear the effect either so I don't think age was a determining factor. But when Ted turned off the Atmosphere gizmo the difference was astounding (at least to me). The soundstage collapsed from 3 dimensions to a flat wall of sound. I was absolutely blown away but some of the others in the room went, "meh." What I drew from this is that I am probably very sensitive to soundstage issues but maybe not so much on frequency response.

One more note about how we process sound quality. At the same AXPONA they had a room with very large Wilson speakers and D'Agostino electronics. This system sounded terrible to me. It had an etched character in the high freqencies that made it sound more like a lab instrument than a stereo system. I talked to several people about this and reactions ranged from, "I couldn't stand to listen to an entire song on that system," to "Best sound at the show. Incredible." Age didn't seem to be a factor with the people I talked to in whether or not you liked this sound of this system. 

Check out speakers like a Martin Logan's with a Folded Motion Tweeter.

I have a pair of ML 15i and they seems to keep the hi frequencies more noticeable  as compared to a soft dome tweeter. Electrostatic and Magnepans speakers will also be an improvement in this area.

I too wear the Jabra Enhance Select H.A. and it is hard to dial them in while listening to music. I just upgraded to the new Select 300 and for me they sound better overall YMMV.  

I'm 72 and had my hearing checked a few years ago and it was 12/13k With my stereo rig I took the approach making sure my system was truly full range My tower speakers have built-in subs and I also use two SVS Ultra 13 subs with their upgraded plate amps  I also have a pair of Magnepans that I listen to also  I must say many songs that I've heard before, now sound more impactful with much more inner detail dynamics   I know that l have lost some upper frequency but I can't get the smile off my face when I listen to my stereo equipment! Oh l listen to everything from Frank Sinatra to Odesza 

@8th-note 

That is interesting that you have had sensitivity issue with soundstage as I recently had a similar reaction.

About a month ago I replaced the stock J&J tubes in my Rogue RP-1 with NOS Mullards and immediately noticed a widened soundstage. After a couple nights of listening, the soundstage expanded to a point of near saturation. It seemed as though there was one upper frequency that was screaming in my ears in a constant state. My ears ached at the thought of that frequency! I could hear it at work the next day and was hesitant about listening the next night.

So I removed the silver interconnect that I had from my Schiit Yggy DAC and Rogue Preamp and replaced them with a pair of mostly copper interconnects and the overly saturated soundstage went away! In return I also got more bass and the music is now more controlled.

The only change I had made in the past number of months was the swapping of the valves, so the NOS Mullard and the silver interconnects were clearly not a match. 

The big dent in my ego is that I actually spent too much time listening to something that was not just bad, but bad for my health!

It's a dangerous hobby!

Yup- Other than that my experience mirrors knotscott. BTW, I tried high quality hearing aids and did not like them at all with audio systems, I’d rather have the reduced highs than endure the hearing aid artifacts.

I agree. 

Everybody's posts are much appreciated. Thank you