USB Cable


I'm considering upgrading a generic 5 meter USB from pc to DAC.   Opinions please on DH Labs Mirage vs Transparent Audio.  Has anyone had an opportunity to compare  in a quality system?

savant19970

More productive than snide insulting remarks.

As opposed to repeated, casually insulting remarks? A distinction without a difference, I'd wager.

All the best,
Nonoise

 

@tvrgeek I think you need to take some Xanax. Clocking absolutely is still an issue. I also made full disclosure on the dates of the information I compiled, oh and was not compiled for you you arrogant azz. You must need a ladder to get on that high horse. You sure make it hard for people to respect you or even want to read your opinions on anything. Truly sad your ego gets' in the way of what should be enjoyable.

Yet in other publications (2016) they find the articles I sited as relevant.

https://www.electronicdesign.com/technologies/embedded/article/21801786/achieving-bitperfect-usb-audio

Also USB Protocols were written in the 1990’s, so really little has changed in the protocols. Changes have been in clocking and hardware, no?

Regardless I think the credentials and experience of the authors EDN outweigh you alleged expertise. JUNE 27, 2012
BY HENK MULLER, PRINCIPAL TECHNOLOGIST XMOS LTD.

As a longtime audio DIYer I can sympathize with audio enthusiasts who don’t wish to have their fun spoiled by the likes of such objectivist methods as hardcore engineering measurements and double blind testing (DBT). But audio subjectivists should realize that ignoring the objectivist “reality” side of audio means never being able to determine an objective “better” or “best” and forever drifting from one product to another in search of the “holy grail.”

Me, I’d rather spend my time enjoying listening to music.

https://www.edn.com/audio-subjectivist-vs-objectivist-debate-2/

From USB.org.

https://www.usb.org/sites/default/files/audio10.pdf

 

@tvrgeek I think you need to take some Xanax. 

Actually better: some THC or gummies 

 

I kinda wonder about people who post on a site called Audiogon where you can buy a system comprised of used audio equipment that costs as much as a small condominium, but who cannot tell empirically that one wire design sounds different than another.  I mean for me it is not even subtle.  And based on my limited work building cables (and measuring them to make sure they at least won’t start a fire in high voltage and current applications), I find measurements are of limited use in telling me how they will sound in real life application in my system and in my room/operating environment.  Kimber provides measurements for all the wires they sell, and I applaud their willingness to do that.  But those measurements don’t tell you exactly how those wires, be they digital, analog, or power, will actually sound when placed in your system.  

The audio world is full of consumers with engineering backgrounds who refuse to believe that wires can make a difference if the boxes they connect follow sound engineering principles and “measure well”.  And then they hear the difference wires can make for themselves and it’s like they just found out the Book of Genesis was only an ancient writer’s best guess at how the universe and our world were formed based on the general understanding at the time.  I know, it’s unsettling to have your dogma and intellectual foundation unmoored by empirical evidence.  But God gave us two ears, one brain and one mouth.  In audio as in life, it is best to use them in proportion.

kn