Toslink


I am looking at a DAC that would require me to connect my streamer via toslink.  I have read in the past that Toslink is inferior to SPDIF and USB connections.

Is that still true?

Does it depend on the the Toslink cable used?

Thanks

mdrone

@mdrone

Apologies - I missed that in your reply.

 

It looks like the Toslink and SPDIF inputs on the Madison are equivalent in terms of technical capability. I don’t see a way for you to connect the Bricasti M5 to the Madison via Toslink though. The webpage only shows USB and AES / coax SPDIF digital outs.

 

If you’re averse to using Toslink still, there’s the option of putting in a SPDIF switcher so you can choose between the streamer and the CD player.

 

Otherwise, I suppose your DAC search continues.

No worries Yage.

You are correct vis a vis the M5.  If I went with the Wattson I would also need to buy another streamer ( with a Toslink output).

thanks for diligence’

 

No problem.

 

Here’s a switcher I found on B&H ($119). Looks like it’s from a company in Oregon that specializes in making gear for the broadcast market.

 

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1351618-REG/inday_da4x_r_spdif_4x1_digital_audio.html/overview

 

Just something to consider.

Slow Toslink transitions convert system electrical noise (on both ends) to jitter (but Toslink is immune to ambient electrical noise and doesn’t create ground loops).

Fast coax transition produce reflections on characteristic impedance boundaries, that convert to jitter (deform original edge).

I use Toslink with Benchmark DAC3 (good jitter suppression).

There are some many variables - you have to try both in your system and in your room. Same goes for coax cables - the most expensive one, recommended by others can have poor impedance matching in your system, while the cheap one can be perfect. Pay attention to overall sound clarity since jitter converts to added noise.

USB should be the best, since it cannot directly induce jitter (being completely asynchronous), but can inject electrical noise to DAC affecting D/A conversion timing (indirect jitter).

I use a DH Labs Glass Master Toslink between my Technics SL-G700 SACD player and SU-G700M2 integrated as it simply sounds the best. It's the only cable that plays all of my CDs, beautifully. The Lifatec and Unique Products (Amazon) Toslink cables (and a few other generics) had drop outs on a few of my CDs, leading me think there was something wrong with the CDs. Also, two different lengths (3' and 6') of Unique gave completely different presentations, the longer being more robust and fuller sounding.

The same thing happened when I tried out a Coax made by a recording engineer I know, a Zu Audio Mission, a Audio Envy and a couple other generics. The same CDs simply wouldn't  play properly. That, and the RCA outs bested all of them.

The sound quality of the DH Labs is simply head and shoulders above the others. No contest. Not even close. I don't see why Toslink gets such a bad rap.

All the best,
Nonoise