About ready to give up on Roon and my streamer


Last December I started a thread to address the question of whether a true AES/EBU cable would sound better than a standard XLR when connecting my Sonnet Morpheus DAC to a Sonnet Hermes streamer. As the discussion evolved, (and in the end I abandoned both connections in favor of I2S via ethernet cable) I began sharing my trials and tribulations setting up Roon and getting it to work. Though I was finally successful and did get to spend some quality time streaming favorite music through Qobuz on the Roon platform, I've never been entirely happy with the sound. Apart from the headaches of getting everything to connect together every time I turn it on, I've also experienced some bizarre intermittent sound quality issues with Roon that I'm becoming very frustrated with. Sometimes it sounds pretty good, and sometimes it sounds tinny, shrill, and no stereo image. I haven't changed any settings anywhere, but something's clearly not getting processed correctly. At this point I'm tired of fighting with it.

What I'd really like to do is take Roon out of the equation entirely and connect directly to Qobuz through a streamer, but the Sonnet Hermes is designed to be a Roon endpoint and as far as I can tell, nothing more. If there's a way to get it to connect directly to Qobuz, I'd surely like to know about it. 

Meanwhile, I'm happy to take suggestions for a streamer in the $1K to 1.5K range (new or used, happy with either) that can do this. I really don't want anything with a built-in DAC, as I'm really happy with mine, despite some minor shortcomings in its array of input connections. 

Advice greatly appreciated. Thanks!

cooper52

@cooper52 

Installing Volumio onto an SD card is pretty easy. You just need a PC or Mac, a memory card reader (I use this one) and the Raspberry Pi Imager utility which can be downloaded here.

 

The imager is nice because it lets you choose your media OS. Sometimes there's an option to preconfigure things like wi-fi before you load the OS onto the memory card which means your device is ready to go as soon as you power it on.

 

One other note - if you decide to switch to Volumio or another streamer, look into using the UPnP protocol to cast Qobuz from your mobile device. For example, I use BubbleUPnP on my Android phone to log into Qobuz and stream from my phone to my Raspberry Pi running moOde. On iOS devices, I use the mConnect HD app. It preserves the sampling rate and bit depth, so it's great for hi-res audio.

I gave up on Roon, its a great library but sound wise not so good.

Look at the Innuos Pulse mini- https://innuos.com/pulse-mini/

Streams Qobuz perfectly, the Innuos Sense app is a reasonable library but sounds leagues better than Roon.

There is a used one https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lisb612e-innuos-pulsemini-network-streamer-black-52529-media-servers if you want to save a few bucks.

I haven’t been happier since dumping Roon. Both for hardware and tech service related issues.

I moved to Innuos Zenith MK3 and use their Sense app for steaming. Sense requires Innuos hardware. Their new Pulse units are relatively inexpensive and may be worth looking into.

https://innuos.com/pulse-mini/

In addition to excellent sound and intuitive app, Innuos has the best tech service and customer support of any company I have ever worked with - anywhere. Outstanding 

I gave up on Roon and then came back at it. You can read gobs about how to get a lot more out of it right here on Agon (how’s ‘dem Apples) forum. The sound from my Lumin app is a titch better but not a deal breaker. 

Roon nucleus, filtered Ethernet, bandwidth and the whole supporting web of parts matter. Taint cheap but in the world of things audiophile it’s a far lessor ticket item. This might be of interest.

You gut reaction will be this is too cheap to be any good, it is GREAT, The Martin Logan Unison. It does Quoboz, DLNA, DTS Play-Fi AND it has ARC room correction (which is why I use it and recommend it). I don't use the preamp feature. I use the toslink out into my DAC.It smokes much more $$$ streamers IMO. Check out the streamer here:

https://www.martinlogan.com/en/product/unison

review here:

https://www.soundstagesimplifi.com/index.php/equipment-reviews/48-martinlogan-unison-wireless-preamplifier

How it measures in my room: