AI and the future of music


Last night’s 60 minutes featured a deep look at Google’s new AI program BARD. Frightening, yet compelling.

It got me thinking, if their AI has already read everything on the internet, and can create verse, stories, etc in seconds…What could it do for music?

‘Hey , BARD create a new Beatles like song from the Rubber Soul era, but have Paul Rodgers and Jack Bruce singing”.

“Hey BARD, create a song that will melt the heart of my new girlfriend”.

 

your ideas?

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Interesting reading all of the reactions to AI.  A lot of absolute declarations, which historically turn out to be inaccurate over time.  Few things in life are absolutely black and white.  I don't agree with the view that we are socially mature or immature.  It's a self-righteous evaluation.  Sorry, M, but you declared that my thinking is driven by money or hubris, which I didn't appreciate.

We are.  That's the relevant point.

Who wants to listen to music sourced from AI?  We listen to music all the time that is heavily sourced from computer software, from the playing to the recording, the mixing, the final production and all points in between.  AI is different, yes, in some respects.  From another perspective it's just a continuation of the evolution of the sophistication of software.  If I like a beat, does it matter where it came from?, who wrote it?, what nationality or color they are?, whether they played it or sample it or created it through an AI prompt?  

At the end of the day, I'm not afraid of AI because I'm not afraid of change.  I know change brings uncertainty and disruption.  With that come new things unimagined before and some things that seem like they'll be around forever go away.  But the toothpaste is out of the tube, my brothers and sisters.  The toothpaste is out of the tube.

Here's something to contemplate.  If AI were are human it would be an infant right now.  Not even a toddler, an infant.  Imagine AI grown up in 20 or 30 years.  30 years ago Tim Berners-Lee published the first version of Hyper Text Markup Language - HTML.  Look at where the Internet and World Wide Web have gone since then.  Personally, I love being able to see other people's perspectives in forums like this one.  And I do love streaming from Quboz.  It lets me hear pretty much whatever I want whenever I want.  I stream through ROON and god I do wish they'd update their AI because it NEVER correctly guesses what I'd like to hear next.  How do I possibly start with The Band and three hours later end up with opera??  Always opera, no matter where I start in the world of music it wants me to listen to opera.

I don't get the plagiarism claim.  If I read a lot of science fictions books and become inspired by the imaginative nature of them and because of that I write a sci-fi book, am I plagiarizing anyone?  Not unless I specifically lift a plot or dialog.  If ML software reads a lot of poems about nature in springtime and then writes a poem about nature in springtime, how is that any different?  As long as it doesn't lift lines, how can any of the poets legitimately claim they were plagiarized.  I'd say there's a far greater chance that a person could accidentally plagiarize someone they read some time ago than an AI program simply because the AI can more effectively avoid the mistake.

I'm looking forward, for instance, to a time when doctors have the AI tools to more accurately diagnose and prescribe treatment.  I'm not looking to replace them, but I do want them to have more effective support.  And btw, are you all aware that there is a critical shortage of doctors world wide?  A common complaint among almost all medical care professionals is they can't spend enough time with patients.  AI will absolutely help with that.

AI will definitely come with challenges.  The Web brought us an explosion in child porn.  We didn't expect that (probably should've). But we're getting that under control and law enforcement is using the Web and software tools to identify child abusers who otherwise would have gone undetected.  Not saying that problem has been solved, btw.  But AI is here.  The time of mechanized armies locking us in our homes is a long way off and we've time to anticipate and avoid that.  But if we turn our eyes and minds from AI we won't understand it well enough to be able to effectively manage it.

Questions Authority, Embrace Change

I spoke about the big corporate industry in general...Not of all engineers and scientists who works there..

It is so evident that the industry is runned by money and hubris that half of the scientists, who are not driven by that motives mainly as  Hinton , who abadonned his personal career to speak freely..They are also others who spoke their mind freely..

A corporate industry is an entity, the people who worked in it , are motivated by good will for the most part...it is the case even in monstruous entities as Pfizer, than i apologize if i hurted you, but constating a FACT about corporate entities goal is not attacking each individuals in them..

i hope i was clearer..

my deepest regards..

 

Sorry, M, but you declared that my thinking is driven by money or hubris, which I didn’t appreciate.

 

"However, no AI generated music should be copyrightable."

How would anybody be able to tell it was machine generated?

Questions Authority, Embrace Change

 

I am all with you for questioning authority...

But A.I. is not a "mere" change...

Anybody speaking of it as a useful tool miss completely the point...

Why do you think Hinton thought otherwise? And Josuah Benjio ?

Because A. I. is not a "mere" tool...

So useful it will be and it will be...

Because it is not a mere"change" like portable phone, Tv and the internet...

A.I. is not a tool, even if we want to use it as a tool...

It is way more than that... And it was about this dimension "way more than just being a tool" i spoke about...Machine even autonomous one cannot transform themselves in "humans" but humans can renounce themselves and merge with machines...

You illustrate it yourself confusing arts as a pleasurable leisure and its spiritual meanings as an historical mirror of the spirit...

A. I. is not about so much replacing alimentary art works in movies, illustrations or elevator music, , but more about erasing human meanings in art for robotization of design...

i am not against A. I. as a tool...

I am against the immature society inheriting something that it was not ready at all for...our society is completely upside down... Especially occidental society negating his own history and in a complete "meaning crisis" breakdown ... I will not go further here...

And A. I. is nothing... Wait till A. C. which is coming soon...

Artificial intelligence and artificial consciousness are not mere tools, thats the spiritual problem i cannot enter to here because it will be too long post...but think about it, and saying that A.I. is only a tool is misrepresenting its technology power..

But claiming that my posts reflected a refusal of change is complete misunderstanding...

Thinking is not refusing change , it is impossible to stop change, but thinking it is separating ourself as spirit from consumers crowds needs... it is to stay free that we think ...freedom exist in the act of thinking ITSELF... Nowhere else... Freedom is the ability to change ourself not the world... Ask Buddha or Christ...

A. I. is not a "mere" tool... Sorry...

But we will go on with the hypothesis it is a "mere" tool...

Guess who will control it and control you ?

Guess who designed a tool to patent the human genome and sell it ?

Guess who benefit from a crime in the last three years....

it is the same who will control A. I.

But at the end, mature A. I. cannot be controlled , it is another problem...

And A. C. is a complete another story to come soon...

There is no just a "mere change " to embrace here...

We will live through the most important times in the last millenias...

How much time had passed since humankind created this type of "tools" in the past ?

Never happened in the known history...

For 70 years we go from alone in the universe to not alone, from no atomic science to atomic science, from we are the only intelligent "machine" to the creation of more intelligent machine than us...it is not a "mere change" to embrace... it is spiritual deep stakes game here...

My spiritual question : are we just "intelligent machine " ?

No is my answer...

Then what are we

Interelated souls immersed and grounded in a universal conscious field... Not machine... Not even artificially conscious machine... This is why what is at stake here is the definition of what is a human being... The question is no more an abstracted reflective thought, it is a concrete battle with ourself...

 

 

 

Hinton pointed to the fact that it would be IMPOSSIBLE to distinguish art from machine and human one, even copyright will need a.I. analysis...But a more sophisticated A. I. will beat the copyright analysis ... Ad infinitum...

It is precisely why the difference between human and machine is a free choice in us not something that will be applicable from the exterior as illusory copyright and "original" human creation versus machine one... But most people are not even conscious they are free...Nothing is more frightening than freedom ...Slavery is confort sleep as proven in the last three years...

What is at stake is not the difference between fake and real, human or machine; it is the difference between free spirit or machine be it made of flesh or artificially made.....

Merging with machine is the most bad dream idea i ever encountered...

Human merging with humans is the only goal... discovering what we really are is the goal...

Anything else is bad comic books hell... Even comic books writer know that...

By the way: the most advanced civilization in the cosmos dont need material technology at all...They dont need Dyson sphere... 😊

How would anybody be able to tell it was machine generated?