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When are speakers considered Hi-Fi and not Mid-Fi???

What determines the status of "Hi-Fi?" I was recently considering a pair of Klipsch Heritage Cornwall speakers. They get rave reviews, have almost a cult-like following, no longer have harshness from the horns, and are very resolving. Other than not reaching down too low into the bass as some speakers do, why are they not considered Hi-Fi? They can clearly reproduce the full range of sound with an incredible image and are not missing any capability in person or on paper. Seems when we follow a thread on here about most any speaker at any price there is always a contingent that feels to need to post that the certain speakers under discussion are Mid-Fi not Hi-Fi. I only use the Klipsch Cornwalls as an example to start. Budget is not an issue, and cost should not dictate. I was also looking at the Magnepan 20.7 for another example, and they are $13k more than the Klipsch, but low and behold someone within seconds pops up and says these are Mid-Fi speakers. I kind of bet I could ask about a Sonus Faber Aida at $130k and within a few seconds someone will pop in and call them Mid-Fi as well. When do we reach "Hi-Fi" these days? Is it simply an endless and baseless dick-measuring contest? Seems like it. If we were talking cars we always have the guy who brags about the 0-60 times of certain cars, but it's clear that the 0-60 time alone does not qualify a car to be a "supercar" as there are so many other things the car must have and do to make it into that class, and like speakers there is not always 100% agreement on what the factors are. When do we reach Hi-Fi status for speakers??? 

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axeis1
276 posts
 

If you like them, that’s all that matters 

pickindoug
43 posts
 

An early definition of high fidelity may be found on pages 630-632 of the Radiotron Designers Handbook, 4th edition.  Too long to copy/paste here, but e copies of the book are out there.....it's a wonderful resource for those who enjoy tube gear.

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sj00884
80 posts
 

Back in the day, a unified box consisting of a turntable, tuner and likely a couple of full range drivers was considered “hifi”. I’m sure many here recall the consoles of yesteryear 

Like everything else in this hobby, hifi is whatever works for you.

vonhelmholtz
911 posts
 

It looks like it was a marketing term from the early 50s which was superseded by the term ‘stereo’.  More recently another nebulous term, ‘audiophile’ is used to label equipment that the foolish purchase.

fleschler
1,922 posts
 

I've been listening to mid-fi equipment and speakers for 5 decades now.  It wasn't until I heard/experienced a few audio systems that blew me away.  The first was 42 years ago at Michael Lane's home with 250,000 records.  He custom built his equipment (he was a genius engineer at Cal Tech) with huge corner speakers (possibly horn-I don't remember).  He played 1903 Grieg at the piano and the sound was like a 50's LP with the frequency response and dynamic limitations of 1903.  He had 25 or more stylii and varied the e.q. per record, obtaining incredibly reduced record noise.  His Remington LPs sounded spectacular, like a Maggie with dynamics.  

Then I heard the Von Schweikert Ultra 11s with my LPs and CDs.  That was a revelation (of $1+ million cost) of sound reproduction I had not experienced in dozens of audio shows.  

In the past 6 years, my goal was to get closer to that sound in my own primary listening room.  It has taken multiple changes in some equipment, mostly tweaks in getting there.  SR fuses, Tripplite voltage regulators for pre-amps (only one plug works to enhance nearest the power cable, the others yuk) and two Shakti on-lines (nothing else works for me, just one above the Tripplite power cable and the other on the power amp plug to wall outlet).  I've removed some SR HFTs and added a GIK Q7D quadradic diffuser.  Tried a half dozen DACs, digital cables and a dozen transports.  Finally got my main system sounding at least half a good and involving as the $1 million system for 1/15th the cost in equipment (the room alone was $150K though).  I kept much of the older equipment such as the VPI TNT VI mod and SME IV mod from decades ago, cabling, speakers, etc.  

Anyone would hear my main system and declare it high end.  It's not perfect (flaws include single seat/inferior diffusion of sound seating and ambiance.  Of course I listen to many 50's and 60's recordings which have left/right recorded sound, ambiance depends on the recording as well.  My 11,500 CDs are now as enjoyable as my analog recordings (about 36,000 various formats).  

By experiencing the best (one of the best) audio systems ever, I knew what to shoot for.  Getting there has taken years though and eventually, I will replace the speakers (after 20 years of stats, I went with a full range, dynamic floor standing speaker for 20 more years).  .  

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