Burn in vs perception


Posting here in speakers, but could probably go in any of the forums. Question of the night: how much of burn in of components is actually burn in of our perception? That is, is burn in partly us becoming accustomed to a change in sound.
 

I’m listening to my SF Amati Traditions that at first I found a bit strident, but I now find lush, dynamic, and generally brilliant. I bought them as 1-year old demos so theoretically they should have been played enough to be broken in. I haven’t changed anything in my system—I have been working on my room with more stuff, but that’s it.

Sometimes reviewers or arm chair audiophiles (me) will state that said component needs to be plugged in and left alone for weeks until it gels with the system. Could this simply be our own perception burn in OR is something real happening here?

For speakers I can buy it (woofers need to loosen up and all), but I almost always buy used, and I almost alway a) find a difference of a new component (good or bad), and b) in time, I couldn’t tell you what the change was. Maybe just me, but our brains are pretty good level setters.

I willing to bet this can be a large part of “burn in”.

 

 

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Audiophile: 

   "So I've done what was recommended and let this cable burn in for 300 hours, but it still sounds the same.  I'd like to return it for a refund."

Salesman:

   "I'm sorry but the return for refund period has lapsed.  I'd be happy to buy them back from you for say, 10 cents on the dollar?"

 

Tube burn in tends to be very short in comparison to the solid state components and wires. Ten to twenty hours for tubes. 

I won't argue as I am but a simple idiot. 

I will say this though. If anyone really wants an answer to this. I found it amazingly simple. Build yourself a headphone amp. Say something simple like a Bottlehead Crack. If you don't notice a huge night and day type difference from hour 1 and hour 20. I don't know what to say. I will never say I have a great ear. I can hear but also have some hearing issues. 

After that experience I no longer argue. In my experience I can't deny, it is real. 

Cheers.

J.F.

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Speakers are mechanical: Full Stop.

Anything that exhibits motion of some form can have a form of 'break-in'

Tubes, ttables, carts, even a CD...moves.  The amount varies, so the 'break-in'/'warm-up' cycle(s) ought to be considered subject to Something....

Butt, mine or yours...since we exhibit the most 'motion'....within the space, away from a space (esp. your listening one...or however many...), and are subject to 'adjustments' more than anything else in your chain of audio extravagance..or not..

The biggest warm-up/cool-down is our perceptions and expectations of what we expect to hear immediately (if not sooner) falls to that same olde wetware we haul about.

Case in point; personal:

If I'm away from my 'pyle' for awhile, it takes me a day or so to re-adjust, recalibrate, remember (*huh?*L*)....basically reboot self.

If absent long enough, all has gotten shut down.
It likely takes as long as me for 'it' to return to 'normal'...

...whatever that was.

YRMV....and likely do, to your whatever it was... ;)

MHO, but enjoy self, anyway, J