Axpona 2023

Separate. Amps f quality just sound more realistic , he class D going into these systems are hypex or less and are ok , untill you hear a good amplifier . This is more about budget , look atYGacousticstheiractive system sounds very good 

$50 K , non active $30k  for the Speakers , for $20 k I will choose my own setup 

i get it much less wires and  nice and tidy ,call me old fashion ,I like my rack with 

electronics of my choosing.

I will say though that it’s a great little active system.add a $499 SVS sub with nice control amp and a very good setup on a budget., Cabasse build great coaxial speakers for a long time .I owned a pair awhile back ,their new floor standers are e actually a very well rounded speaker.

for more old school Audiophiles like me 40+ years , I still prefer to build one step at a time ,much more $$ but to me I like the challenge and updating when I. Find something nice.

I found these little boxes to be the best I heard at the show. And a great value for the money especially if you’re looking to simplify your system. Seemed like this year the hi-end audio was a bit lackluster. I also found some of the factory reps to have loud conversations among themselves or people talking over the music. Just my thoughts. As always fun time. 

@bpoletti 

Vendor? LOL, see my system in my profile.

@khashmi , I'll check out that system, if you have time feel free to post videos in this thread.

@audioman58 , I have both passive and active systems in the house. Your point about cheap class D amps is observant. Then you have to look at the cheap crossovers in those passive speakers and there seems to be a balance. An outboard active crossover like the Bryston Bax-1 gives you both worlds. I think good DSP implementation helps offset the class D amp too. If you like SVS they have their own active speakers.

@schmitty1 

Thanks for the update, they sounded amazing even through youtube and a set of headphones. I need to check out cabasse.

I listened to these speakers as well.  I could not believe the room filling sound and bass coming from something this small.  Powered, an onboard streamer!  At a price of 4k or whatever, these speakers are excellant.