Law Of Diminishing Returns?


I'm curious about what you enthusiasts think of the product or price that eclipses your definition of "value".  

As an example I have a rich buddy that just spent 100K upgrading his (former) Pass 600s / Bryston / B&W Signature 800s / JL Fathom 8 speaker  system. I have a discerning ear and cannot hear the difference between the old system and his new S5M Perlistons (4) , Anthem AVN90, ,ATI amp AT6005 (4) and four subs.

This got me to thinking- 80% more money for maybe 20% more sound quality? 

Where is the sweet spot for the discerning ear and the affluent but not Billionaire (think Doctor/Lawyer/Indian Chief) budget?  Can you get 80% HiFi sound for 20K or do you need to spend 100K to get that HiFi sound?

-Asking for a friend :)

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At the lower end of decent hifi there most certainly is a law of diminishing returns in my opinion. To get a decent sounding set of speakers you need to pay around 1k GBP second hand and probably half that per each other component. Above that you experience relatively minor sonic improvements and below that it can be the opposite and major depending on component match/mismatch. I've owned a lot of low end hifi over the years due to being skint for the most part, but I would never spend 50k on a sound system unless I was absolutely filthy rich and money no object.

Currently I have a modest set up of 2 x Roksan M2 power amps with a rotel rc1550 pre amp, arcam cd21(now fixed!), rotel rcd 12, ifi audio zen one, monitor audio rs8's, monitor audio silver rx2's, Sony mds jb980(I hear you laughing!), 2 x technics 1200's with ortofon club 2 carts, 2 x denon sc6000's with x1850 mixer. Wharfedale sub(cant remember the model). This is my downstairs listening room.

Upstairs I have a rotel ra1520 integrated amp with another ifi zen one, bowers n wilkins 685 s2 speakers, arcam cd21, bowers n wilkins asw600 sub. Plus focal alpha 80 studio monitors with a motu m4 soundcard and rme baby face pro fs. 

With the exception of the sc6000's none of this equipment cost more than 1k per component so you can achieve a good level of sound reproduction without a huge price tag. OK if you put all this together it would amount to a lot of money but obviously a lot of this was bought second hand over a number of years.

I like to think I've built a great sounding system on a budget and there is probably only the minidisc player that isn't really hifi, although it's still good for what it is-it was bought for recording mixes before computer audio technology took over the mantle so to speak.

What I will say is coming from an electronic audio background a prefer a more clinical sound which is possibly the opposite to most hifi buffs but each to their own eh. I think the monitor audio and bowers and wilkins speakers do a fine job of taming the sharp end and smoothing out the overall presentation. 

Recently, I had the opportunity to have wagyu beef.  And, yes, it's delicious.

Now....having it everyday?

No.

Not that I wouldn't enjoy it, but it potentially ruin the enjoyment of nearly anything beneath its' qualities....

...and I've no need to impress or distress anyone with my preferences.

Enjoy the weekend...

And April Fools' 

;)

If the term satisfies then have it. Otherwise continue to seek improvement. After a point even the small ones are more costly but we already know that. 

Wisdom brings balance.

 

I've been saying that for years and many posts here seem to agree wiht me that starting with some really good speakers and some basically competent components added in with 'The Law of Diminishing Returns' as stated here, yo can enjoy the best part of best music. I would never want to deprive someone from spending a $100k + for a system, but would not desire a (#&$*% to talk trash about MY system. and I do continue to improve my system as time goes by and opportunities present themself.

Around $50k for a full range single source system - source, amplification, speakers and cables. For these purposes full range covers dynamics and bandwidth capable of generating adequate spl's in a medium/large room.