Why didn't I sell my vinyl rig?


I've recently moved heavily into streaming and digital playback.  That system's core is the Denafrips Terminator Plus DAC with an Innuos Zenith Mk 3 / Phoenix USB.  Just added a LHY Audio SW-8 ethernet switch. Great cables all the way around. By most standards this is a reasonable mix of gear.  I run the Innuos Sense App as it sounds better than Roon. Love the convenience of digital and infinite supply of tunes from Qobuz.  My problem is this.  My vinyl rig generally sounds better.  Sometimes by a wide margin. Do others with both rigs have the same problem?

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Go 10g with your transceivers for your FMC and you will be there. 

I use digital streaming about 95% of the time out of convenience. IMHO the best vinyl rigs still sound better than the best digital ones. However, digital has improved significantly in comparison to the early days of compact discs. In the past, I sold a few turntables only to eventually buy another one. I’ve had my Systemdek IIX (paid about $350 including a Grado Reference Platinum MM phono cartridge worth $350 on its own) for the past 15 years and enjoy having it around for the occasional times that I want to listen to vinyl. If you own a decent size record collection it probably makes sense to at least have a good quality affordable table, such as a Rega P2.

I'll say it....

My digital setup sounds better than my analog setup!

As far as SQ they are equal but  on the digital I never get the occasional needle sound, or pop due to static or whatever other temperamental nonsense I have to deal with...  Then just as I am about to zone that side is over have to get out of the chair and flip it.  Also had to listen to all the songs on that side even the ones that suck.  Or I guess I could have gotten up and did a lift and drop and hope for the best.   

On digital I go on journeys.  One song leads me to the next and that one reminded me of something else in my life as the playlist builds and eventually I have 20 songs deep and I am zoning away.  No clicks, hisses, pops or gymnastics.

I will think...they won't have this album but they do and I can enjoy it instantly.  Looking around for it, cleaning it, finding and playin one song on it is an enormous hassle that has been eliminated by technology.  

Great thing about it....if you love it keep doing it. It is your system...you command.  I still have a turntable sort of mid grade as a backup to a possible internet outage but it is rarely used.  I actually listened to an album the other day....forced myself to do it and really honestly tried to find and advantage worth all the hassle.  For me the answer is no....

I think that one thing we can all agree vinyl is a major hassle.  Sone (not me) may enjoy the work.  And then there's  45RPM..........  Ugh.  But when the needle drops on my copy of Classic Records 45RPM series of Time Our I'm transported to another place.

My criteria for both Vinyl and SACD/CD’s in Main System, and Streaming in my Office System: Is it ’INVOLVING’ ... IF Yes, DONE?

I purposely don’t compare them as many of you do (mine are not directly comparable anyway).

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Office Streaming (if you could call it that) is a simple $250. DAC (just so I can use USB from my PC). Office Source: free streaming, YouTube, Pandora, that’s it.

However, I do have some very nice speakers in the Office System (restored vintage AR-2ax, 3 way with 2 level controls: adjusting for the room a big asset).

I re-arranged the furniture to sit dead center on both Monitor and Speakers, thus for an Office, simple streaming with very nice Sound and Imaging up here. Thus: ’INVOLVING’

You that stream, hi-rez paid subscriptions, real equipment: thru your main system get far better I am sure. And, both thru your main systems, you can readily compare. Cost of Streaming can get way up there.

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My Vinyl and SACD/CD via Main System areTerrific. Took me a few years, I’m Done.

3 Tonearms, one 12.5:, others two 9". MC, MM removable headshell, Mono ready to go, Switch in seconds during a listening session.

New to me Vintage SACD/CD player, rediscovering existing and buying used CD’s now.

Definitely ’INVOLVING’.

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Compare: My friends bring their cartridges, or equipment here to hear/compare with my vinyl and/or cd systems, entire, or parts. That is both fun and informative.

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Vinyl: CD’s only for years, then rediscovered Vinyl. Then listened to Vinyl only for a long while. Improved SACD/CD player, now both, Vinyl predominately.

Had sold my Thorens TD124 with SME 3009 arm sadly because it was subject to vertical vibrations from my flexible wood floor.

Got a simple Audio Technica 120, then I gave it with cartridge to a friend. Started Vinyl all over during covid times.

I put together a terrific 3 arm TT setup. Coincidentally Just this morning added all up, total $5,565. People here spend a whole heck of a lot more for their Vinyl Rigs, and for their Streaming setups.

Improved SACD/CD, went thru 9 players till I found this one. $1,000. (surprisingly same cost as when it was new)

I have a lot of CDs, many both LP and CD, we do compare them, prejudiced opinion: LP wins most of the time.

Reel to Reel beats both LP and CD. (despite tapes having the worst Signal/Noise rating)