Luxman Knockoffs or Counterfeits?


Living in the US, it has been very difficult finding a Luxman on the used market. I see lots of models on ebay selling from Japan. The listings look suspicious to me - different sellers with the exact same photo of the product; sometimes the same photo with one seller naming a different model number than another seller, but using the same photo.    

I found one Japanese ebay seller who seems to be legit, Monotokyo, based on seller reviews, but I am hesitant to rely on ebay seller reviews.  

Does anyone have information about Luxman knockoffs or counterfeits? 

audiojerry

Here’s an audio forum reference to a past LUXMAN cd tube website warning for counterfeit for cd tube fakes .

Looks like L UXMAN were not ( are not?) immune from cheap ad fakes on eBay and the like. Admittedly I don’t have the time to crawl through the current discussions for the current state. The “fakes” are likely “B” and “C” grade refurbs and repairs on faulty returns, rather the classic illegal counterfeit POS build cable fakes made in China. 

So …does this validate the OP’s assessment of higher risk when buying from anybody that than a bona fide and reputable audio dealer, or at least from a healthy prior positive feedback private seller fully registered with a robust history on AGON, USAUDIOMART, CAM etc.?

me … I wouldn’t buy it on eBay and it’s all too many dodgy listings. Instead …. Buy NA dealers or registered audio forum members as a cheap cost of insurance IMO.

 

 

I have purchased audio equipment (SME tonearm, turntable parts) from Japan via Ebay. No problem and great result. I always look at the Ebay ratings of the supplier and find this to be a very good indicator in terms of the number of raters and the percentage of positives

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- GAR

Before you invest in Ebay, have you looked at Luxman Dealers north across the border in Canada? The dollar ratio is in your favor at $1us to $1.25cdn. I'm pretty sure there are a few Luxman Dealers up here willing to take your money and ship to the US, and the kicker, no transformers required. You will just have to pay what US Customs will charge, same as Ebay and importing from Japan. 

 

 

Speaking of Customs. I asked one of the ebay sellers from Japan about Customs. It was my understanding that the seller/shipper must provide the Customs - HTS Harmonized Tariff Schedule - code in order for Customs to determine the fee, but thiis seller said he never had to provide a code in the past. I know there are specific codes for audio components. 

What happens if he ships to US without a HTS code? 

@tim_p 

I am not privy to customs regs in any sense...but I have bought several Bryston products and never heard a word about it.  And the purchase was even below the MSRP (new pieces).

To your original point, don't play in an arena that you are not 100% comfortable with.  And by that I mean if you get screwed you are good with that.

Personally I wouldn't deal with the uncertainty unless see above.

Regards,

barts