Opportunity to buy Demo Magico M2?


A dealer called me with an offer to sell their demo Magico M2’s at a massive discount. I was recently in their shop and tested the A5’s with my Gryphon Diablo 300, and I found the bass to be lacking with the A5’s. I think this was likely due to the fact that they had less than 250 hours on them.

My room, while not massive, is on the larger side. Vaulted ceilings that rises to 14 feet at the peak, about 26ft front to back, and open on the sides (house is open concept). There is a large and tall island that separates out the listening area.

Considering my room size, and considering my not so great experience with the A5’s, should I bother lugging my amp into the shop to test the M2’s? I have to travel a ways so it’s a bit of a commitment. But the discount they are offering is about $25k off. And they said it would include the M-Pods.  Thoughts?

 

nyev

Thanks all. I read a pro review of the M2’s and the reviewer had what sounded like a very, very similar room to what I have - larger, open concept with the room extending out, with an open staircase. While the reviewer LOVED the speakers, he said that his 16’ x 30’ room was not ideal for these speakers and said if you have such a room, they are not ideal. They have less cabinet size and bass driver surface area vs the A5’s, so I think that alone rules them out. And, the reviewer struggled to get them to sound good, with setup. The A5’s are known to be dead easy to set up.

I also read in another article how different a sealed enclosure design sounds from a ported design. They present the philosophy that ported designs only give the illusion of more “oomph” in the bass around 60Hz, while sacrificing a lot of other things. They claimed people often first ask where the bass is with the sealed design even though the actual bass extension is very, very low. But, after spending time with it, it’s hard to ever go back to a ported design once you start hearing all the benefits.

This dealer I had auditioned the A5’s at sold them, amd won’t have any for months. Another dealer has them and I think I will give them another chance. The store said they have well over 500 hours on them. Hopefully it’s in a bigger, more open room as I think that is also more to my tastes.

@larryi , It’s not easy for me to simply go listen with existing electronics first - these dealers are not local to me. Requires half day of travel, and a hotel to not be rushed. Also listening with other electronics first, which I considered, I’d be afraid of ruling them out but not knowing if it was the speakers or electronics fault. Truth is, I actually really don’t love the sound of most speakers and amps, so finding gear I like is hard. Took me forever before I found an amp I liked; many home demos and there was not a single other amplifier I tested in my price range that I would have been happy living with.

Regarding A5 breakin: I’ve seen more than a few posts, I think on audio aficionado, where they say it was like a light switch turning on after 500 hours. One said he was considering parting with them. But after the bass showed up he had zero complaints and loved them. Several A5 owners were advising a guy to hang on to them as he was 250 hours in and wasn’t hearing the bass. Because of this, I’m hoping that my next audition of these speakers will go better…

@fastfreight thanks for reminding me of the Revel Salon 2’s.  This model has been around for a LONG time, but whatever. There is actually a dealer who has these, and they also sell Wilson. Less interested in Wilson as even with my large room, due to the layout I can only have about 30” from the rear of the speaker to the wall - not sure if this is enough.

So this weekend I think I will be travelling with my amp to test the A5’s, the Salon 2’s, and the Wilson’s (Sasha DAW and Yvette).

If I have no luck, I think I’ve tested all the options available in my area and price range: B&W, Sonus Faber, Magico, Audiovector, Wilson, Revel. The only other option is the Monitor Audio PL500 but another Goner who owns these told me he thinks they need 4.5 ft behind them!

 

 

 

 

I would test them in my room before final buying. This is the final test - your room and your system. Can be surprising. I would give them room to breathe, good distance from walls, adjust toe-in, and go from there.

 

@fastfreight I chose the A5 over the Hailey 2.2, after a long prosses of auditions (I like YG, had the Carmel 2 before). The A5 are a better speaker, much more complete and organic sounding, for almost half the price, IMO of course.

@nyev Not sure what it is you are trying to accomplish with your posts. As you can see, there are as many opinions as participants. You will be the only one who can decide, and I think you already did. You should just move on, Magico is not for for everyone, there are plenty of other options out there.

Seems like a lot of stress even with the discount, the only way to be sure is to demo them in your own space...

OP,

 

You said a couple of important things. One you love the sound of the speakers you have and you were not moved by the Magico. Whether bass increases over 500 hours or not you really want to love the sound. You want an emotional connection… didn’t sound like you got it..

 

I have heard a number of Magico. They are amazing speakers. But, they are so fast that they really highlight any slight hardness or analytical nature in upstream electronics. My personal guess is they would require a top notch all tube system to appeal to me.

What about top of the line B&W? Sonus Faber. I would listen to those.

 

When auditioning try to just experience the music… it should grab your heart. If not, it may be a technically great speaker but doesn’t capture music like your subconscious wants to experience it.