Cable Quality vs Customer Service


For me, it's the end of a short era.  I will no longer purchase, or advocate the purchase of Synergistic Research products.  There is no point in the acquisition of fantastic cables if after the sale the customer service lacks so bad that the value of the cable drops to nothing.

So, I would ask...is good cable quality worth bad customer service?

Here's the story, so you understand where I am coming from. I ordered an SR Foundation headphone cable.  It required a stereo mini-pin to source and mono-pin to the headphones.  Seems simple enough. When the cable worked, it sounded fantastic. The problem was that the mono-pins that were used didn't make a solid connection.  When you plug them in, they immediately begin to come out and you lose signal. There is nothing more frustrating than trying to listen to music only to have the audio cut in and out across left and right or altogether. I tested this against other headphone cables both OEM and 3rd party as well as other headphones.  The issue followed the cable. I compared the SR cable to the ones that worked and determined that the problem was the notch on the pin was too thin.  The conductive ball bearing inside the shaft couldn't lock onto the notch in the SR cable and the spring behind it would push the connector out.

So I got an RMA and sent it in to SR for repair.  I even sent two different headphone cables of mine for them to measure against and or to cannibalize if need be. After a week of confirming they had received the cable, I called them to get an update.  They hadn't even looked at it yet and claimed someone would call me the next day.  That day came and went with no call.  I waited a few more days before calling them again for an update.  They still hadn't worked on it but at least looked at the cables and hadn't decided if they should get a new part or use the parts from one of my cables.  They would call and let me know what they had decided.  Days without a call came and went. I called again to get an update.  They said they ordered a new part and I should wait an entire week and someone would call to explain what was happening.  I waited a week and the day they were supposed to call came and went.  I waited a few more days and called for an update and they said it was shipped out already and they couldn't give me a tracking number, but would email it.  I never received an email with the tracking number. 

When I finally got the cable back, it was worse than it was before. They replaced the previous mono-pin with a mono-pin that had a base three times the size of any of the other mono-pins.  So, of course, the connector wouldn't fit into the headphone. It couldn't clear the hole before the main shaft. It was wider than 1/4 of an inch with a 1/4 inch mono-pin sticking out of it. All other mini-pins in existence have a pin, followed by a slightly larger diameter secondary shaft before the much wider base. This was just the mono-pin and the much wider base.  It was missing the extended, smaller diameter shaft. Therefore, the mono-pin lacked the length required to reach the conductor.

So, I called Synergistic Research to ask what could be done.  They said they couldn't help me any further and that I should seek a refund.

Really?  No other options. Not, send in your 3rd party cable so we can use the connector.  Just...forget you, we're done here.  Spending $500 on a cable and they can't 'afford' to help any further? Suddenly, all the thousands of dollars I have spent on Synergistic Research cables and equipment are worthless because there is no integrity behind them.  It's almost as if they're happy to build you a cable and take your money, but don't seek out their help if the product doesn't work as expected. If I charged $500 for a 1 meter cable, I would certainly figure out a way to make it right so that the customer would spend another $500+ on another cable in the future instead of deciding, "we don't need his business."  Maybe they don't, and that's fine.  But I also don't have to be quiet about it.

Peace out.

128x128guakus

Speaking about cables and customer service...few years ago I've contacted Nordost because I had 3m long Nordost Odin ic, bought at authorised dealer, At the time I wanted to change my system and I needed short(er) runs of that IC. By the way, Nordost (had than, do not know now) stated that its possible to reterminate their cables at the factory. I have kept the mail, in which they inform that they will not reterminate the Odin ic for me and advise me to sell it and than buy the new one in length that I need,,,now, 'beat that (story about customer service), if you can'...

@guakus 

I think you may have misunderstood my post. I was not trying to downplay your incident at all. I was just trying to say that poor customer service is everywhere and is hitting everyone now

@artemus_5 

I understand.  I didn't think you were downplaying my incident, but at the same time I wanted to ensure that I recognized the severity of the situation you were relaying.  I am genuinely sorry about the state of Workerscomp as it reflects a certain amount of social divide and turmoil currently going on.

It is weird that poor customer service would be the norm considering how desperate a lot of businesses are after COVID shutdowns caused numerous industry issues. I was in the customer service industry for 20 years (technical support.) What I learned is, poor customer service tends to reflect the state of the business. If a business feels their product is so important that customers are almost forced to buy it, they will drop customer service as a priority because you'll buy their product anyway. Businesses who aren't that large have a tendency to focus on customer service as a way to get more business.

With that said, it would seem Synergistic Research believes their product is so important that they believe people will buy it regardless of customer service. They're wrong.

@alexatpos 

Wow, I had come very close to buying Nordost power cables. What's interesting is that I had a brief conversation with Ted of Synergistic Research on this forum not too long ago.  At that time I found it odd that he was trying to talk me out of buying one of his $3000 power cables in favor for one of his $500 power cables because I wanted the $3000 power cable terminated in a C7 connector (figure 8).  He felt that his "Foundation" power cable would best Kimber's Palladian power cable ($1500 cable) without ever having heard the Palladian.  I immediately felt like I was being talked-down to, as if how-dare-I request one of his precious high-level cables for what he considered a low-end application.  This planted the seed of mistrust against Synergistic Research because if Ted was truly a good cable maker, he should know that certain materials are extremely important in cable making.  Such as the use of Teflon/FEP as a dielectric. Or properly calibrated filters placed on power cables. Something the Kimber Palladian uses both of that SR Foundation does NOT use either of. IN fact, the $3000 SR cable I wanted uses both of those features at twice the cost.  The difference was that SR used silver conductors in combination with copper conductors as well as more advanced geometry. Which was why I was willing to pay the extra cost.  The only caveat was that SR would have had to loop off the ground cable; big deal. It made me start to 2nd-guess Synergistic Research.