Duelund conversion to DIY Helix Geometry Cabling


I have been an avid user of the Duelund cabling for over two years now and have used them exclusively in my system with great results. I have built many for friends and have used a full loom of interconnects, speaker cables, power cords and an extensive wiring modification for a previously owned balanced power conditioner utilizing Duelund 600V PolyCast wiring which was transformative. My cabling desires can be a little addictive as I have owned and evaluated 40+ brands of cabling costing more than an entire stereo system!

Over the past six months I stumbled upon a thread here on Audiogon in regards to a Helix designed cabling and as you probably already know, I just had to look a little deeper into this cable design…After a month of studying and sourcing parts, I decided to reach out to the designer/architect, Williewonka who gave more insights and philosophy on how the cable came into existence.

That conversation got the ball rolling in converting one of my KLE Duelund interconnects to Steve’s Helix designed which only entailed replacing the neutral with a Mil-Spec 16 AWG silver-plated copper wire with the neural wire being 3 times longer than the signal wire and of course the “Coiling” of the neutral wire : )

After the modification was complete, I was not sure what to expect from the Helix cabling but I was quite shocked with the results with “ZERO” burn-in time…The sound stage became much wider/deeper with a much tighter/focused image and clarity/transparency is like nothing I have ever heard in any cabling regardless of cost. In fact, I just sold a full loom of a commercially designed Helix Cable that’s renowned around the world and has more direct sale than any cable manufacturer; these $200 DIY Helix Cables walked all over them…

I believe you will hear the same results as I have and have heard back from friends who have already modified their Duelunds with the same results; WOW! Remember the cables will need 200+ hours to burn-in and settle into your system. My system is now 90% DIY Helix to include IC, SC, PC and Coax with each cabling adding its beauty of an organic and natural presentation that draws you into the fabric of the music.

You can tailor the sound of your cables using Duelund, Mundorf silver/1% gold, the outstanding Vh Audio OCC Solid Copper or Silver with Airlok Insulation or your favorite wiring and you can change it at any time…

 

http://www.image99.net/blog/files/category-diy-cables.html

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/difference-in-sound-between-copper-and-silver-digital-cables

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/adding-shielding-to-existing-cables

 

Enjoy,

Wig


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Let's say you're using double solid core hot leads and double stranded grounds.  What direction should the hot pairs be twisted and what direction should the grounds be twisted around them?

@pindac 

I have not received my AR CCC bulk wire.  I ordered fromjapan.  We'll see if it ever shows up.

As an EE, I do like some of your terminology (Eddy properties).  Not an analog/vinyl person, so my only interest in these cables will be an XLR connection from a streamer to amp.  Maybe a speaker cable...

@williewonka 

I recently listened to a Buchardt WiSA system.  No cables...sounded awesome.

The days are numbered...

 

@ketchup 

 

good question...I would say that the positive/line conductor should be twisted in the opposite direction of the negative/return conductors.  Basic current flow...

@williewonka 

I have tried many cables with this orientation and really never could tell a difference.

Marty

 

@mbolek It took almost six months for a package to arrive that I purchased from Australia, there may be a pleasant surprise turn up.

I do believe that a XLR is a low mass connector and the Eddy Effect is reduced due to this.

As you are an EE, the discussion seen in an old thread I have seen, where a method is proposed for producing connections that are said to be Low Mass.

The Link will show the discussions and selected parts for producing the method from the era, there may be a variant as an option today.

I am without doubt the improved impact on what I was experiencing is due to the choices made for the connection.

This was not a veil had been lifted moment, each Cable was appearing equal in Soundstage Depth and Width, and how a insight to a recording was being perceived, each Cable was able to deliver with a very similar presentation for the overall performance.

The difference was how the Note and Vocal took on a Shaping of the Envelope, the Cable with the Low Eddy RCA Termination, when connected to the Low Eddy RCA chassis mount connector showed a substantial and notable improvement in this area of the presentation. 

Does having the CCC Wire running through the Analogue Source Signal Path contribute to the effect, I can not say, but it does contribute to the perceived purity that is present in comparison to other used signal wires.  

 https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/ultra-low-mass-interconnects-and-connectors.62611/ 

@mbolek RE: 

I have tried many cables with this orientation and really never could tell a difference.

Not sure what you mean by "this orientation"

  • are your referring to the rwo stranded live and neutral wires
  • or the bare wire inside teflon tube ?

 

I recently listened to a Buchardt WiSA system.  No cables...sounded awesome.

The days are numbered...

I agree - I have several Bluesound products. Their Pulse speakers employ a similar approach with imbedded amplifier and streaming hardware/software

  • You can pair the epsakers into a L/R configuration for 2 channel operation
  • no cables and they sound very good

It's only a matter of time before this becomes the accepted norm among speaker manufacturers

But oyu still need a good power cable 😀

  • sometyhing Buchardt omit from showing in the photo's of their products

Cheers - Steve