The sound quality from DACs - is it all the same?


I've been talking to my cousin brother about sound quality. He is a self-proclaimed expert audiophile. He says that Audio Science Review has all of the answers I will need regarding audio products.

In particular, he says an inexpensive DAC from any Chinese company will do better than the expensive stuff. He says fancy audio gear is a waste of money because the data is already bit-perfect.  All DAC chips sound the same. Am I being mislead? 

He also said that any DAC over $400 is a waste of money. Convincing marketing is at play here, he says.

He currently owns a Topping L30 headphone amplifier and D30 Pro DAC. He uses Sennheiser HD 569 headphones to listen to music.  I'm not sure what to think of them. I will report my findings after listening one day! (likely soon, once I get some free time)

- Jack 

 

 

jackhifiguy

I am operating under the assumptions that we MAY discuss without insulting each others... Arguments matter...

I dont "butt in" like you pretend, i observed that your answer with an insult in a "biases" matter discussion is inappropriate especially with annoying children like cartoon...I dont like stupid cartoon... Sorry....

You can mute yourself and not answering to my observation or apologize for insulting someone... But i can make my observation, i am not perfect either, insults annoy me... Even if they are not  directed against me...

You’re operating under the mistaken assumption that I’m somehow obligated to talk to you, even when you butt in, looking for ways to argue with me.

Silly.

When I read these threads they make me laugh! Not only do DACs make a significant difference in the audio chain - digital transports do too.

In fact cheap out on your digital front end then don't bother auditioning amps and speakers - you just ain't going to get the best out of them. I would go as far as saying with confidence that the importance of system building is working from the top down!

Mahgister - I know you have the very good SPS DAC 3 - I also own that DAC but the Audio Note 0.1x is so so much better - I think if you are going to work your magic then work on AN's affordable DAC, it's light years better than the already good SPS. Just try it and see!

 

Mahgister - I know you have the very good SPS DAC 3 - I also own that DAC but the Audio Note 0.1x is so so much better - I think if you are going to work your magic then work on AN’s affordable DAC, it’s light years better than the already good SPS. Just try it and see!

I am sure that you are right.... Thanks for the recommendation...

But you know i pay 20 bucks my SPS Dac3, 😁😊...

It work marvel in my small acoustically dedicated room...

my other components cost me peanuts too and are on the same level of quality: Mission Cyrus 781 and Sansui AU 7700 ...

Then this ratio S.Q./price is very good and adding a piece that will cost me 4 times thge basic cost of my complete system, which is under 500 bucks will not be rational for me...

i enjoy a very good experience so much i dont want to improve it with  very higher cost... It will costme 15,000 bucks to substantially improved the three components... And even if i had the money i will not do it.... The orchestra already filled my room...

I dont own the best system there is, but the best ratio S.Q./Price system possible...

 

my actual system beat my 8 modified headphones...

it is enough and it was my goal to begin with not to compete with higher costlier system... Anyway i dont need to....

my deepest respect to you....

No problem Mahgister - I too remain open minded with regards some low cost items sounding very good in the right environment (hence why I purchased the SPS DAC3 but now finding that inadequate once you have listened to something like the AN 0.1x).

For example - go in the search for the rather plasticky looking very much under the radar Grundig V1700 and with the right speakers that amp is excellent beyond what you would have thought capable.

For example I connected an expensive dCS Network Bridge to the Audio Note 0.1x then for fun into a Grundig V1700 - the Grundig did not sound like a bottleneck!

It's another cheap option that you can play with perhaps.