Life of KT 150 Tubes


Auris audio Mono Block -Forte 150 uses Two KT150 for power output for each monos, Very strangely a both amps popped the KT 150 same time. I can vouch it had less than 1000 hours in 2 years as I have NAIM NAC 252/NAP 300 in the same room. I tested the tubes and one is 100% dead and the rest have very marginal life. With great difficulty I have ordered four new tubes. Would any of you know why this would have happened, in the sense bath amps not working at the same time? I am trying to get hold of Auris in Serbia. Even a good Valve tech will not open the unit without schematics and Auris wouldn’t provide one. I am in Canada. There are 2 authorized service center in the US. When crated both amp weighs 94 Kgs.Not easy to ship. I tried with a borrowed set of TUBES , there is no Biasing at all,mA reads 0, but there is signal coming in and VU display lights up. 

Lesson learnt well not to buy equipment that is hard to service. I bought this even before there was a dealer in canada. I tried contacting the distributor Motet in Toronto. They are telling me to contact Dealer in Edmonton 300Km away. He never sold me the unit, why would he have any interest if he didn’t make any money on this unit? The unit cost $16,800 USD. Any advise what I should do?

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@vishu I had a Jolida 3502p Amplifier and immediately installed cryo’d by Upscale Audio in L.A. 4x KT150’s and they were fine for 8 months. I sold the Amp only to finance the hand building of 6 Orchard Audio Amplifier modules.

The current owner has had the Amplifier since Aug. of 2021 with no issues.

I had Tubes Cryogenically frozen when I bought them from Upscale only because I read somewhere that they will last longer. Nothing to do with how they sound.

Not much help advising you but that was my experience.

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Hi Vishu. In your original post you mentioned both tubes went bad at the same time but in your last post you mention the left amp going bad and the right amp was still working. After switching tubes from the bad left amp to the working right amp, the right amp then blew.

 

My guess would be that possibly a bad tube blew an internal fuse or resistor in the left amp, rendering it inoperable. After putting the suspect left tubes into the right amp, it caused the same issue - a blown internal fuse or resistor. Thats just my guess. 

 

I just looked for pics of the internals online. The only ones I found of the circuit board do not show any fuses but I'm not 100% sure these pics are the same as your amp. I'm hopeful that even if it is a resistor rather than a fuse, it will be easy for a competent tech to find a cooked resistor. Sounds like you are on the right road since the distributor has been asked to find a tech for you by the manufacturer.

 

These days, I don't buy anything without thinking about what I'm going to do if it breaks. There are so many boutique, one man operations and foreign manufacturers that it is easy to get stuck on an island with a faulty piece of gear.  I hope you have a quick, successful resolution of your issue!

The Amplitrex is not going to give a KT150 an adequate test. Better than most other older testers but still it doesnt have the juice. 

Very few tube sellers are willing to test these higher voltage tube correctly as it requires a much higher than normal investment. I checked into a custom made rig and when I finally found a competent builder that was willing the price was just too high for a tube which is more of a commodity and can always be found cheaper than what I would have to charge.

Not necessarily. The Amplitrex can supply 500 volts on the line, which as you say is not ideal, but it is the best out there. This would give one a better idea about the general health of the tube than any other tester i am aware of. Are you aware of a tester that can supply 600 volts? Custom made is probably not the answer for the reasons you state.