How to tame a bright system?


Hi all,

I have been facing a problem, the brightness of my system:

Bluesound n130  --- Chord dave ---- audioquest fire (xlr) ---- Etude  ---- copper wire ---- B&W 606s2.

 

The brightness shows up, particularly after I upgrade the cable from the chord company clearway (RCA) to the AQ fire (XLR).  AQ fire really improved everything. However, the high frequency is too cristal to my ears (especially the "ding, ding" sound from the piano, I believe most of the people would love it but not me .... ).  I like the cheap clearway, but it does not have the excellent bass and the dynamic offered by fire. I also tried with AQ Mackenzie (copper) which gives a proper sound but lacks space. I also found the vocal of fire is a bit forward (I am not really big fun of forwarding vocal).

Can someone help to recommend a cable that has everything of clearway but more dynamic and extension at the low end? I think this would be an ideal cable for my current system.

 

If possible, please help to focus on the cable rather than the other components. I know there is a lot to improve, but not at the moment.  Thanks a lot guys!  ;-) 

 

 

 

tension255

This was as close to Unanimous advice as I have ever seen on Audiogon, a clear majority identified the culprit right away. Yet OP defends the sound of his overly bright B&W speakers, which he “tested”?  Then at home he heard what those speakers really sound like, but rejects the evidence of his own ears.    and the op’s system resource allocation is absurd, as several people pointed out.

It’s an old story.  Pearls before swine. 
 

 

Sorry OP - this seems very, very unbalanced: a high dollar, highly resolving upstream, paired with $900 metal dome tweeter 2-way bookshelf speakers. The Fire XLR alone lists at $3,500 / 1m. I think a lot of folks would’ve predicted the issues you’re having.

Obviously, you’ve got a lot advice to fix that imbalance. What you have, would be a great upstream for a lot of nice speakers.

On to cables - as others have also mentioned, the Fire is not exactly a relaxed sounding cable. It’s a cable I love, but it’s a little bit more aggressive than even other silver cables in the AQ line. I find my 1st gen Wild Blue Yonders are a little warmer and more relaxed than Fire. The Fire’s predecessor Sky (also 1st gen in my case) was also certainly warmer. The Wind is not the right move - it’s overall similar in tonality to Fire, but lacks the latter’s bass impact and body. And the WEL Signature sounds very much like an extension of the Fire. In fact the Fire sounds like like a WEL Junior. I’ve had both RCA and XLR pairs of all these cables. I’m not sure if later versions of Wild and Sky carry forward the 1st versions’ warmth, but those and the very limited "Horizon" model are worth looking at when they come up used. Quite honestly the v1 Wilds are probably my favorite. The copper cables (I had Colorado RCA and XLR) are a LOT warmer, at the sacrifice of some resolution. 

@millercarbon

Really whats wrong with measuring even when it cost you Nothing only than a measuring Mic for less than a 100 bucks. If you don’t like the result heck bypass the sound an be happy. Let people decide them self.

 

One of the solution the latest room correction can bring you.

 

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