$4000 budget for amp and preamp


Hi all,

Been a while since I posted here...  Been searching the hell out of AVS, ASR and Agon and I can't decide on next steps for my system.  My 2-channel set up has been, for a few years now, QoBuz > Audirvana > Wadia Di122 > Simaudio i-3 > Totem Rainmaker.  This sounds pretty solid in my 10' x 10' home office.  I've been trying to listen more in my living room since I bought a new house.  I've got my older HT there - Streaming or PS3 > ifi DSD or Simaudio D100 > Integra 50.2 > and my new Revel F35's + SB 1000 Pro (plus a Wharfedale center that I picked up on the cheap because wifey liked that it was the same color as the F35's).  I'm pretty satisfied with this set up - but really just for HT.  I'd like to make this my main listening room and I'm wondering if I should just switch to a 2.1 set up.  

I've tried my i-3 with its HT bypass > Integra and I wasn't impressed. I really couldn't tell the difference, to be honest. I tried Direct, Stereo and my native 3.1 with various sources.  I have six Acoustimac 2x4 foot panels that I've yet to hang.  I tried this with and without Audyssey, Dynamic EQ, etc.  

So.  2-channel with a nice amp and pre combo - maybe SS amp with tube pre (+ remote)?  I'm good with used and have always loved the thought of owning an AR tube preamp, but I haven't heard one in such a long time. I was thinking of going a couple different ways.  On the lower end, two Schiit Vidars and a balanced preamp?  There's a mint LS17 SE listed here for $2,200 and I could stretch to allow another $2k for an amp.  I'm also wondering how modern preamps stack up to the older AR models.  Or, should I be looking at something like the Parasound P6?

If the Benchmark AHB2's were available, I might have already pulled the trigger.  Anyway, I'm spinning around here trying to figure out this first world problem.  I've got a 14 X 12 x 11' ceiling room and I listen to rock and hard bop most of the time.  I think I'm okay with the F35's and I'm glad I didn't spend a couple thousand more on the Klipsch Fortes that I so desperately thought I wanted.  When I had a chance to audition them, I thought they were just awful.  To be fair, the room was a warehouse, they were about 5' apart and they were hooked up to a Denon AVR.  

If I got this set up right, I'd probably spend about 80% of the time with music and the other 20% with Netflix, Amazon Prime, etc.  After rereading this, I'm not sure what I'm even asking because there's so much information.  Maybe it's how can I best spend $4,000 for the F35's?

Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions.





chuke076
If you like all tube I would second the Belles Aria  together with Quicksilver monos.
Thanks for all the input.  Still not closer to making a decision, but I appreciate all the suggestions.  Lots of different ways to go....
Just an update - I went a totally different route.  I went on TMR's website early this morning and they had a mint Mac MA5200 with original box, remote, etc.  I had a 5% off coupon code that one of the sales reps gave me the other day and I pulled the trigger.  I hadn't mentioned this before, but I auditioned a pair of SF Lumina III's with an MA252 hybrid integrated and I was surprised that it was more forward and analytical (in a good way) that some older Mac amps that I heard in the past.  Maybe I was just expecting to hear a more boring presentation and the slight difference was noticeable.  Keep in mind that this is all from memory, so I might be off base about the Macs/systems I heard in the past.  

This, of course, does not mean my search is over.  I'm thinking that I might get the Raven Nighthawk and keep them both for a few months and see which I prefer.  It will be easy to sell the Mac for about the same price.  A quick eBay search showed a few had sold with "Buy it Now" for about $200 more than I paid, so that made the decision easier.  I'm guessing it would be nearly the same for the Raven - not sure I've seen more than one on the used market at any given time.

I don't have any regrets about grabbing the Mac.  We'll see when it gets here next week.  Anyone want to buy a mint Submariner to fund more purchases?  ;-)

Thanks again to everyone and especially for the Raven suggestions.


I'm thinking that I might get the Raven Nighthawk and keep them both for a few months and see which I prefer.
Yeah, my money’s BIG on the Nighthawk.  Let us know what you find. 

As someone else mentioned the Parasound is a great integrated with everything you need in one.