Why the hate for mcintosh amps?


Why dont people,like mcintosh? Who motivates this?

so what are the alternatives??
emergingsoul
"I would definitely up my game plan if I was attempting to drive a pair of MOABs."

Why? They are very efficient, more so than the Harbeths.
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@sokogear,

”I am curious as to why you don’t list a Porsche.”, interesting that you ask. I have not entirely ruled out obtaining a GT3 in the future.
Real quick story. When I left active duty and picked up a consultation gig in Europe, I did put a downpayment on a GT3, circa 2011. Prior to that, the freaking GT3 was my nemesis at Hockenheim Formula 1 racetrack. I was a hobby race car driver with a Katceh racing modified C5 Z06 Corvette. I had the power, speed, and brakes to be highly competitive with the Turbos, GT3s, M cars, and the only car out of that bunch that played cat and mouse with me was the GT3, and coming from the factory like that, and with Cup tires, they were race ready.

Whereas, I added a slew of race stuff to make my car compete at the track…maybe about 35-40k in stuff. But, it was nearly a 575hp beast with a weight of 3100 pounds and acceleration was phenomenal. I could walk the line, live on the edge, dance the dance of tired screaming as I pushed into turns and twisties against the mighty GT3.


One day at Hockenheim, entering Sachs curve and approaching a GT3 just ahead of me, my rate of speed and my skills finally good enough, and tight factory corvette SCAA T1 race suspension, allowed me to pass the GT3. Well, I did it finally, after hundreds of laps, thousands of dollars.



Back to the GT3 order. I went to Singlefinden to a Diplomatic sales Porsche dealer, and sat in a GT3 and a Turbo, because I put my deposit on a GT3, but never sat in one. Well I was appalled at the seats, bare bones, stripped, and not worthy of a 100k plus car. My M Roadster and M3, had more comfortable seats. Yes, race seats means lack of comfort, but I was a hobby racer not full blown race car racer. So, I canceled the order. To this day, I still want to add a GT3 to the collection because of what they can do from the factory, but they are now way pricier and I could get a used Mclaren 520s, Lambo or Audi R8 for those prices. Due to recent health issues, back surgery (disc replacement on L5), I am reassessing what it means to me to drive a sports car, more comfort, and switching to, well, ahem DCT, argghh, I said it. So, that’s the story.


Back to amps, enjoy whatever you own, life is way to short to fret about what’s best, who is using what, what others think, and what things cost. Live life, said so many times…my favorite saying by Black Sabbath, Die Young, “So live for today Tomorrow never comes”. Once someone has experienced many things, gone out and seen the world, Lived outside the USA for extended years, your view of life and ones perception of things like cars and audio are vastly different than others who are not exposed to such things. For those who have such experiential life experiences, you know what I mean. BTW, Porsches are driven readily as daily drivers in Germany all the time, and M cars are a dime a dozen as well.
Ciao,

Audioquest4life

@roxy54
YesI agree MOABS are more efficient, 90dB@2.83V@1m as opposed to 86dB@2.83V@1m however my point was that driving 17 as opposed to 3 speakers will take quite a bit more power. To reach compatable efficiency (150W vs 900W max input) I would be sporting 400W MonoBlocks rather than a 75W 2 channel.
starwarrior,
I don't mean to be argumentative, but regardless of the number of drivers a speaker has, the efficiency is what it is. The MOAB was designed to be used with lower power tube amplifiers or higher power solid state amplifiers if the user chooses that, but it is not required.
@roxy54  It's all good, We really are talking cats and dogs here, the MOAB's are a completely different speaker design than Harbeths. 20Hz vs 40Hz right off the bat will require a significant power boost to run the woofs efficiently and each speaker will draw from whats available. The sweet spot for each brand has to be quite different. If I tried to drive them at the same power level as the MOAB's I would blow the voice coils across the room. Just sayin.