Which Harbeths?


Trying to decide between the the M30.1/2 and the C7es3/XD. I’ve researched it a fair amount and I’m coming up a bid confused. Like most things it seems people have conflicting opinions. I’m coming from using various Totems for the last decade. I also just had a pair of Dynaudio special 40s for a short time before selling. I found the 40s were better at playing louder and had a bit softer top end, but overall just lacked that something special, ironically. What I’m really after is that just rightness I get with Totems. While I find there top end a bit much I’ve been willing to work with it because of the just rightness I personally get from them. My wife likes to say they sing which I think gets the just of it as well. Harbeth has sounded very attractive to me for a while and hope to find another version of a special speaker in them.  One that hopefully is a bit smoother in the presence and treble areas while also being very engaging and musical. I use a McIntosh mc302 and C46, so plenty of power for any of the Harbeths I’d think.  Anyways, I’d appreciate any feedback in these two models I can get. Anybody who has experience with both Harbeth and Toen I would have particular interest in your take. I live about 4 hours from any dealer and I don’t like to waste their time since I will inevitably buy used anyways.  
brylandgoodman
In as much as I haven't noticed or perhaps overlooked any  comments pertaining to my question, - - - - are you planning on buying one or the other HARBETH speakers without an audition? If you have, or plan to set up an audition, then without question, the final judge are "your ears". You certainly shouldn't be buying speakers based on specs or reports or recommendations. There are so many variables associated in choosing the right speaker that fits your system, room acoustics; - -  well, you get the idea. But most of all your specific taste in music, has to play a very important role. 
HARBETH is one of my top two speaker designs. However the different models can sound quite different, when you take into consideration the factors I mentioned. Unfortunately many people think a person can buy speakers based upon specs, reviews, or recommendations. It seems to me that what your trying to accomplish, falls into this category. Room size (a very important part of the acoustic equation) is especially important. Realistically speaking, you may find yourself needing additional support in the lower octave frequency range, with either speaker mentioned. Again, depending upon taste and the type of music you enjoy, and let's not forget the decibel level that you are accustomed to play the system at; - - -  all these are important considerations in your decision making. Naturally, budget is obviously a consideration as well
Both speakers you mention have received glowing reviews by virtually every audio periodical in the world. Actually, that doesn't help.
If cost was no object, I would actually recommend  the "world class" 
40.2. Truly a loudspeaker that can handle any room size while retaining  all of the nuance and audible characteristics of the rest of the wonderful HARBETH line. And I would go further to add that the 40.2 is at home with virtually and genre of reproduced music. 
GOOD LUCK.

I’ve had both and the C7 sound is a bit warmer, more bass extension and lovely treble, a perfectly balanced speaker for detail mixed with easy on the ear, a speaker you can very happily live with and not feel you’re missing anything. For me, and these things are personal, I didn’t get on with the M30.2 XD. I found them bass light, a bit ‘hard’ sounding, not so musically involving.
C7’s all day long for me.
HI, I latched onto a pair of Harbeth SHL5+ about a year ago and I'm quite happy with them.
I compared them with the 40.3 but they were way too big for my room and quite more expensive. Basically the differences are that the cabinets are 2Cu3 and 3Cu3 respectively and the 40.3 sports a bass driver whereas the SHL5+ utilizes a super tweeter. The bass driver does lower the frequency response slightly but not enough in my view to eliminate the need for a SubWoofer. I think any smaller than the SHL5+ your looking at a bookshelf speaker as opposed to a monitor. It really comes down to the area you need to cover. A well balanced pair of speakers especially in the mid-range frequency range. Highly recommended.
All great responses. I’m with Arafiq on this one. I’ll make this short.

Obviously the choice will be dependent on listening taste and preferences. In my view and experience (which may not apply to everyone). M40.1/2 and P3ESR excluded.

SHL5+
Most balanced all rounder which plays all music genres well. From jazz to pop, rock and dynamic music. Leanest and brightest sounding in comparison to all other Harbeth models. Bass sounds fuller and deeper than the other smaller Harbeth, going down to 40Hz. The bass has better punch, slam and dynamics than C7ES3 and 30.1/30.2.

C7ES3
Sounds slightly warmer and fuller in the midrange than SHL5+. Bass is adequately balanced although it doesn’t go as deep as the SHL5+.

M30.1/30.2
More refined in the treble with better macrodynamics than both SHL5+ and C7ES3, notes leap out more from a silent background, contributing to a more forward presentation. Treble is smoother and rounded. Excellent in jazz, small ensemble music and capable of reproducing human voice to sound as lifelike as possible, in this regard better than SHL5+ and C7ES3. Doesn’t play rock and dynamic music as well due to the added smoothness. Bass is lighter and doesn’t have the slam in comparison.

M30.2 sounds more open with more extended treble than 30.1. M30.1 sounds significantly more open with extended treble than M30. Avoid the M30 at all cost as I find the treble rolled off and clarity lacking.

Broaden your horizon and also look at Spendor and Tannoy....jmo
Tannoy makes a fantastic speaker....