Townshend Springs under Speakers

@grannyring , thanks. Your contributions are always thoughtful and informative. Appreciate having you on this forum. 
Charles 

+1 Charles and Grannyring.

holmz,
I had a pair of Sound Anchors stands on my Spendor SP100 speakers years ago. They make stands for a lot of speakers.
As far as the rest of what you said, I didn’t get it.

@charles1dad  I didn't read your comments as a criticism of either the spike or isolation approach.
I was commenting on this postulation:

I could easily imagine that people with “I’ll say better made” speaker cabinets, prefer spikes and mass to pin them spatially.And that the isolators may help actually people who’s cabinets tend to excite the floor.

My point was the Townshend Podiums have been reported to work with speakers having both very inert/dense/rigid cabinet materials and more conventional MDF cabinets - and speakers of all shapes and sizes for that matter. So not sure if construction can be used as an accurate barometer for predicting the performance of one approach over the other. 
My podiums are scheduled arrive next week, so at the moment I can't express an opinion on their performance, but I have prefered the Herbies isolators over rigid coupling in my room/system (hence my intrest in the Podiums).

@tobes,
I did mention that it is certainly possible that speaker enclosure construction could be a variable that favors the choice of a particular isolation product. As more data points are accumulated It seems as I wrote earlier in this thread, that multiple factors are in play.

Thus my contention that both products will be quite effective in mitigating vibration and resonance.
Congratulations in regard to getting the Townshend Podiums. I am sure they will be an asset to your audio system.
Charles

To the people who follow vibration management solutions in audio, this may be of interest to you and contains no “word salad”.

Millercarbon, this speaker ringing thing has me perplexed and word has it that you appear to be or are about to become a dealer or their new US representative for the English spring-based company, so I have a couple of questions for you.

Without springs the cabinet causes the floor to vibrate. This vibration manifests as ringing that can be seen on a seismograph. It also manifests as a blurring of image focus and harmonic coloring that can be heard.

Are we to believe speakers ring in the sub-hertz regions and this noise actually transcends into audible noise that the human ear easily detects?

I have always led the understanding that Sound Pressure Levels were the culprit that vibrates flooring and not speaker systems. This can easily be proven by taking a pair of subwoofers, putting some volume behind them, and standing in front, sides, or rear of the cabinet and you will experience some floor vibration. Now place any quality product of ours or yours under them and put your toes anywhere on the floor or directly under the speakers and like magic, the floor no longer is active other than a sense of limited energy formed by residual, variable, and constant Sound Pressure Levels.

Supporting Documentation: http://starsoundtechnologies.com/reviewsDetail.php?37 and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAoJ_-Bl2Ig

When Sound Pressure Levels are present and speakers build resonance on all smooth surfaces to the point at which the drivers no longer fire the way they were designed (360° dispersion patterns being the majority) and without a mechanical exit to reduce resonance build-up, how do springs compensate for this problem?

Not too sure what is meant by image blurring either. If the image begins to distort, is that not a problem related to resonance build-up on the speaker drivers? We know that resonance is attracted to metals making speaker frameworks an ideal collection point so how do springs compensate for this problem?

Our theorem is very different in comparison to spring isolation.

We strongly believe there is far more noise generated by ELECTRICITY in comparison to the inaudible sub-harmonic vibrations you claim to be the primary issue affecting racks, electronics, and speakers.

Noise from the power source is very audible. We have all heard electrical panels hum, transformers buzzing, and felt the heat generated by tubes and power supplies. 

Until listeners deal with the noise and resonance in their components and chassis, no one can convince us that the major problems and operational inefficiencies are caused by vibrations coming from the inaudible frequencies located in flooring. Seismographs are required to prove it exists but my ears still have to be convinced. If there is noise in the original signal, there is a continuous source of noise throughout the system.  

If your primary electronics equipment racking cannot manage resonance efficiently, what you hear from your speakers may be problems related back to the equipment rack - itself.

That said, our Company has been working on solutions for resonance build-up on loudspeakers. We are currently listening to Rosso Fiorentino Siena Series 2 loudspeakers and have used PBN, Eggleston Works Custom Ivy Signature, Caravelle, Revel Studio, Wilson Max, Magico Q3, vintage B&W Matrix3, Dunlavy, YG Acoustics Sonja, and a pair of Dual 18” Custom Subwoofers by McCauley Sound.

I have never experienced ringing or heard image blurring or harmonic coloring resulting from floor noise on any of these systems. What speakers are you using where these highly descriptive problems appear? I will get a set in so we can also hear this phenomenon for ourselves.

I am not here for an argument, just more knowledge. Springs do function as we have used and tested them in the past. We found their primary issues are weight capacity, fatigue life, minimal surface contact area, and multiple-use limitations.

This new Resonance Energy Transfer model delivers on weight capacity and parts longevity, is a scalable technology with far more applications in both audio and other industries.

On a negative note: Sound tests that require jumping up and down in a sonic environment are new to us.

Comparing a premium isolation device costing "thousands of dollars" to another part costing just “two dollars” is meaningless and questions one’s level of intelligence. Your videos do prove how vulnerable humans are to the age-old idiom that “seeing is believing”.

I am not a marketing specialist but from a sound engineer’s point of view, the fix is in before the video even begins.

We wish you well in your new audio career, but when challenged to the point when your eyes have to tell your ears what they hear via marketing nonsense, we will respond accordingly. Any answers to the questions are greatly appreciated.

Any questions will be answered based on our experience as well.

Best regards,

Robert, SST