What do we hear when we change the direction of a wire?


Douglas Self wrote a devastating article about audio anomalies back in 1988. With all the necessary knowledge and measuring tools, he did not detect any supposedly audible changes in the electrical signal. Self and his colleagues were sure that they had proved the absence of anomalies in audio, but over the past 30 years, audio anomalies have not disappeared anywhere, at the same time the authority of science in the field of audio has increasingly become questioned. It's hard to believe, but science still cannot clearly answer the question of what electricity is and what sound is! (see article by A.J.Essien).

For your information: to make sure that no potentially audible changes in the electrical signal occur when we apply any "audio magic" to our gear, no super equipment is needed. The smallest step-change in amplitude that can be detected by ear is about 0.3dB for a pure tone. In more realistic situations it is 0.5 to 1.0dB'". This is about a 10% change. (Harris J.D.). At medium volume, the voltage amplitude at the output of the amplifier is approximately 10 volts, which means that the smallest audible difference in sound will be noticeable when the output voltage changes to 1 volt. Such an error is impossible not to notice even using a conventional voltmeter, but Self and his colleagues performed much more accurate measurements, including ones made directly on the music signal using Baxandall subtraction technique - they found no error even at this highest level.

As a result, we are faced with an apparently unsolvable problem: those of us who do not hear the sound of wires, relying on the authority of scientists, claim that audio anomalies are BS. However, people who confidently perceive this component of sound are forced to make another, the only possible conclusion in this situation: the electrical and acoustic signals contain some additional signal(s) that are still unknown to science, and which we perceive with a certain sixth sense.

If there are no electrical changes in the signal, then there are no acoustic changes, respectively, hearing does not participate in the perception of anomalies. What other options can there be?

Regards.
anton_stepichev
Science does not give out participation awards
true knowledge is not a race for Nobel prize...Save for children....

It is cute that you think the depth of my knowledge is electronics.
If you read my post you must admit that i respect your knowledge.... but i am perfectly able to read most of the times where you are right and where your answer are debatable....

You are not Einstein by any means sorry....

You have dismissed all others opinion or experience in a rude way each time....Sometimes you were right for sure you know more in Audio than most.... But sorry you dont know all... And it is evident to see it even for me....



Sound position of a plug?

Is there a freeze position for my freezer?
English is not his mother tongue but Russian but even me i understand what he want to say here...

Really? Can you explain it so an idiot like me can get it? 
The whole basis of this thread is cables have a sound that is directional.


There is only one thing missing. PROOF.  I think you can agree with me here Mahgister that this is a case where unbiased, somewhat scientifically valid testing must occur to validate the claim.


Otherwise it is just a lot of hot air.  This thread is pointless as the whole basis is purely presumption.
Real scientists either prove and peer review or find themselves in a 3rd rate college teaching those that could not get in anywhere else.
Your arrogance is wonderful....

Do you know Nikolai Kozirev?

Probably not....

and if you know him you will probably dismiss him , without even having the competence to dismiss his ideas...

You are not a physicist then your dismissal will be based on a "belief" in the general scientific consensus...

My point is some ideas of Kozirev are behind the inspiration source for the idea of the research group linked to Anton .... Am i right?

Only Anton can say.....


The whole basis of this thread is cables have a sound that is directional.
Unlike you i want to understand...

They are more than cable marketing war here...

We must LISTEN to someone before imposing a test on him...Politeness is necessary....Especially for a Russian in an english audio site....

Anton is not here to market a cable...THIS IS CLEAR TO ANYONE LOOKING AT HIS SITE.... This is not about synergetic research cable test here....Are you able to see the difference?

Anton is not an audiophile advocating about a branded name cable product.... You treat him like if he was one....

The Contour System – Directional Wiring of Audio Parts – Back To Music

The title of the site is about direction wiring OF AUDIO PARTS , not marketting of cables....


You complety throw the baby ( wire direction/hearing process/ electronic and a deep question about that) with the muddy waters of cable marketing....

Are you a scientist or a debunker of cable sellers? i am not sure anymore.....


This thread is pointless as the whole basis is purely presumption.
The 2 threads of Anton are LINKED to His site where are discussed his ideas and experiments....Nobody is in the obligation to believe him, but it is evident that there is experiments behind his ideas....

Reducing him to be a cables sellers waiting to be put a test on insulting.... He is not Ted Denney....He is someone devoted to some years long research without anything to sell here....

Before texting his ideas here which are complex one we must discuss and listen his explanations...

Is it not simple to understand?

If you are a scientist you will understand.... If you are a cable debunker after retirement say it i will know....
 
But probably if you are able to dismiss Essien who wrote his doctorate and after that a book to be a crook, you will do the same for anyone? Essien is not a crook even if he is completely wrong.... My definition of a "crook" is not  yours it seems....

 I hope i am wrong and i hope you are the scientist you seem to be for me.....