Acoustics and reverberation time


Hi everyone,

We often talk about room modes or first reflections but few talk about a major reason for treating a room: reverb time.

Reverberation time is the amount of time an audio signal stays active in a room. An anechoic test chamber has no reverb, since only the source signal can be heard. We often measure reverb time with the measure RT60. That is, how long in time until the signal has decayed by 60 dB. We divide this into multiple bands so we can evaluate room treatment in mid-bass, mid, treble separately, but there is also the question of how smoothly it decays. Signals should decay randomly but smoothly. Peaks indicate an echo. Multiple peaks a slap echo. Too little reverb and you end up with a very dry sounding room, with no ambience.

What does this affect? It is like a TV or computer monitor’s pixel. Imagine the screen having a memory of all the previous pixels, like the screen starts to turn grey or blue based on what you saw a few frames ago. So, it blurs the signal. It also colors the signal. A room with excess mid/treble reverb can make every speaker seem like it lacks bass when the reality is that there is too much mid/treble in the room. A side effect of this is that speakers sound harsh when you turn up the volume. Of course, this is subjective, as you can overload a speaker, but when you are using relatively little power and the sound quality changes, it is often excess treble reverb time.

One curious experiment which will make you a believer in reverb time is to treat bare wooden floors between or behind the speakers with pillows or blankets. Why does this help the mid/treble? Well, reverb time. :)

Perhaps now we can imagine why diffusion works. Instead of being pure absorbers, they scatter the sound. They help maintain the reverb time but prevent these coherent, regular reflections. So when we are looking at room treatment we are attempting a combination of many traits. Controlling early reflections, and maintaining a diffuse, rapidly decaying (but not too rapidly) sound field, in addition to managing room modes.

At the gross level, your room acoustics are tone controls. You are playing with the mid/treble balance, and at the finest levels they are helping to localize sounds and provide an enjoyable playing field for your music.

This should also help you understand somewhat why equalizer solutions, including Digital Signal Processing (DSP) based like automatic room correction or DIRAC, etc. can only work up to a point, and why having good room treatment widens the sweet spot, and makes these tools work over a broader physical area.
erik_squires
But you don’t implement them in lieu of basic acoustic principles....
For sure you are right.... Basic acoustic principles about absorption, reflective surface, diffusive surface or volume, reverberation time all that is basic and useful knowledge.... Contesting that makes no sense....But even with the basic experts are not on all the same boat....Suffice to read a little to know that each acoustician after the basic has his own best road....

Then it is possible also to experiment and try resonators or modified S.G. etc I begin to try other experiments and devices after more orthodox materials passive treatment in my room...I succeed, then anybody who trust himself can....

My point is learn, be creative, and listen....Thats all....It is not to negate the basic.... It is not also necessary to buy costly supposedly indispensable branded name acoustical products....

My corner remedy cost 15 cents....


Sometimes one of my device were disconnected by accident, or by me for an experiment, and the result were the audible clues and values of each one of my experiments...

This I can totally believe, because the same kind of thing has happened to me several times over the years. Even one time had a party where a guy from work thought he would pull a prank like this he thought I would never know, only to watch me spot what he'd done and fix it in like 60 seconds and all by ear. Twice I have screwed up and put things in going the wrong way and people pretend there's no difference but both times I noticed the mistake and fixed it by listening not looking.  

However, I have nowhere near the phenomenal amount of stuff going on as you do mahgister! Muad'Dib!
All of you guys seem to know a lot more about this subject than I do, so let me tell you about my experience and you can ignore it if you want to.  I am on my forth listening room in 40 years with the first two being quite small, the third much bigger and my current one even larger.  Without doubt size matters.  My system has remained about the same over the years, but the soundstage illusion has improved dramatically, wider, deeper and more focused.  My room is U shaped with a brick fireplace and bookshelves separating the U.  My speakers are against the long wall of the U located five feet from the back wall and five feet from the side wall.  The room is 20 feet wide to the center divider of the U with the speakers eight feet apart.  My chair is about 16 feet from the back wall behind the speakers with another 12 feet to the rear wall of the room.  This puts any reflections at least 10 milliseconds behind the directly radiated sound from the speakers.  There seems to be something significant to the 10 millisecond minimum delay but I can't explain it.  My speakers are bi-polar radiators and that increases the reflected sound from back and side walls considerably compared to dynamic box speakers.  I experimented with various homemade flat panel absorbers and diffusers with little success.  I heard about acoustic wave traps or tube traps and made my own that extend floor to ceiling with 12 inch diameter ones in each corner and 9 inch diameter ones spaced every 3 feet against the wall behind my speakers.  What a difference!  The key seems to be that the tube shape increases the absorbing area by a factor of pi.  I wont bore you with anymore but consider this information food for thought.
Awesome, large irregular shaped rooms tend to sound great :-) glad you are getting great sound.  
Magister so right you are, some of what we speak is black art on top of science and because the ear/brain is involved the taste varies widely. No doubt you know of various big buck and ego performance venues needed a fix before or years after opening night.
scottdog, there is a time window of about 3 to 5 ms in which reflections will interfere with our sense of locating the original sound source. That's why getting speakers several feet out into the room and away from walls helps so much. Sound travels roughly 1 foot per millisecond so speakers 3 feet away the reflection travels an extra roughly 5 feet equals 5ms and there's the delay you need for imaging.

There's another longer one for sense of spaciousness but there's more to it than just timing the spectrum has to be right and it needs to be even. A slap echo at 10ms is just a slap echo. A nice broad spectrum smoothed out and dispersed in time 10ms is a nice sense of space. Odd shaped rooms with lots of different surfaces (fireplace, bookshelves) serves as a kind of natural diffuser. In other words, you lucked out.