Which R2R DAC UP TO 1K: ORGANIC, FULL-BODIED, DEEP SOUNDSTAGE


Hi all and hello George,

I`m new to Audiogon and as I have seen from earlier discussions some of you seem to be THE absolute R2R enthusiasts for many years. May I ask you for some help regarding this topic as I`m out for a new dac which should be R2R?

I`m coming from a Lector CDP 707, which is sold now as I got over to streaming, but I bloody regret it. The Lector had all I ever wanted, tonally he played on the warm, full-bodied side, organically with a lot of flesh to the bone and authority/slam and I loved the expansive soundstage, not overly wide but very deep. Bass was punchy enough even for EDM which I listen to mainly.

For the moment I`m using my former headamp as a DAC, the Questyle CMA 600i, with a DS chip on board, AKM 4490. I wouldn`t call it a catastrophe, but of course the signature is lightyears away from the Lector.

When looking for a new DAC I saw that Lector Strumenti offers some too, but I`m afraid my budget is too small with up to 1K, so this is not an option.

In respect of the Lector using the PCM 1704K I thought about (ab)using some vintage gear, for examle the Denon DVD 5000 with 4xPCM 1704J on board too (the Denon has a digital input and could be used as a stand alone DAC too), but I was told the analog stage is crappy and so I got away from this.

Still on my mind is the old Naim DAC and the Bifrost 2 or a used HoloSpring but for the moment I got no possibilitys to test them in my system (I`m using a tube packed preamp and as a headamp the Emotiva BasX 100 with the jumpers set as my "heddphone" requires some juice) and sure I`m open to any other ideas.

So, what would be your favourite devices when looking at my desired sound and knowing what (tiny amount) I got to spend?


It should be able to handle 24/96 btw, but my main concern would be an extremely deep and wide soundstage and a darker organic tonality.

Would be really glad for some help and input.

Best regards
Michael


barrista0611
Denafrips, hmmm. Don’t they use the soekris architecture in general? I found their 1421 a bit to thin. Not harsh or cold but not as rich and full-bodied as I wanted.

I think Alvin from Vineshine replied a while back that the Denafrips DACs are unrelated to Soekris and use a proprietary R2R architecture. 

I am thrilled with my Denafrips Terminator, but this is above your price range. From what I understand, the models down the line have a very similar sonic signature, with a little less detail and refinement. My Terminator sounds fairly neutral with a presentation fairly similar to my Schitt Yggdrasil A2, but with a bit more energy in the bass. 

Very easy to listen to for long periods. Since I have my home office in my listening room, I've enjoyed listening to it for 8 hours or more a day almost every day for the past several months. 

Previous DACS included Krell Reference 64 (that was a while back), Mark Levinson No 39 (used as both a player and DAC), W4S DAC2, and Yggy.

The Yggdrasil is a great DAC with excellent detail and soundstage, but it can start to sound a bit congested on lesser quality recordings. I've found I'm enjoying more of my older classic rock recordings with the Terminator than I did with the Yggy. 
Hello guys,

I'm Alvin from Vinshine Audio. I can confirm that the DENAFRIPS DACs are unrelated to Soekris.

I guess the confusion may arises due to the fact that i used to use Soekris dam1021 to OEM DAC under Vinshine Audio brand in 2016. I can relate @barrista0611 comment on the Soekris sound characteristic and i strongly agree to it as well, especially when I had a chance to compare the Soekris DAC1541 VS the Ares II.

Some comments on the DENAFRIPS Ares II you might find it useful: 
https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/denafrips-dacs.897934/page-29#post-24304385

Cheers,
Alvin Chee
www.vinshineaudio.com
The NAIM CDP 555 with the PS555 power supply will cost you your first born as well as your house and wife, if you can find one.
The ML No.39 is a good one but the laser is hard/expensive to get if needed.

Cheers George 
ORGANIC, hum I get pleasure relaxing and listening to my audio equipment. But I gave never thought of it as Organic .