Aqua La Scala Optologic Mk2 on the cheap, used and sub $3000?


I’ve had a great time with a borrowed Aqua La Scala Optologic in my system. Played with the Antipodes CX / Ex combo (also borrowed) the sound was sublime, palpable and emotionally connected me to the music. Given the evolution of digital and the significant depreciation involved, I’m a real fan of used at the moment.

I picked up a good deal on a 1TB Innuos Zen MKiii. With my current Ayre Codex, it’s decent, but nowhere in the same league as the Aqua. The Aqua design appeals for a couple of other reasons:

1) I believe R2R is a better way forward on PCM, it just sounds right!
2) I’m heavily invested in high Rez (SACD) and I require that ability
3) I firmly believe the more you transform the bits, the more damage you can do the the SQ. Therefore I don’t want to have Roon convert DSD to PCM on the fly. For me, The DAC needs to handle DSD natively.

If it wasn’t for the DSD, a MHDT Orchid modded by Grannyring, or the Tubadour iii SE are highly regarded music makers and easy choices. What then with R2R and native DSD at a more economical used price point? (The La Scala sells for approximately $4k)

Sure there is the Aqua La Voice S3, for the $1000 less used, I’m told the La Scala is the better value in spite of the cost differential. Part of the cost of the Aqua line is on the ability of the boards to be upgraded, the other is labor costs in Italy verses the Orient. Too bad these other guys don’t offer DSD!

I’ve heard the Lampi Amber 3 might be a good choice, though I’ve also heard it’s a little more forward particularly with PCM. Getting the overall timbre color and tonality correct (the meat on the bones if you will) is really important to me, if the DAC gets this right, usually lesser recordings are more listenable. So what else is there?


ianderson
I recently bought a new Amber 3 and absolutely love it. It is open, dynamic, palpable, and lifelike in its presentation. Maybe that would be seen as "forward" relative to something darker and relaxed but the overall presentation is just right in my opinion and I struggle to find any real weaknesses. I find it very friendly to lesser recordings (it’s paired with a LM SET amp and Spendor’s). The digital engine does everything from redbook to PCM hi-res to native DSD extremely well - I no longer have any desire to upsample in Roon or HQP. They have updated the USB module as well - it switches formats instantly and silently. Another thing I like is that Lampi always has upgrade paths when new versions come out - something important in the fast moving world of DAC’s.
Having owned the Amber 3, a highly upgraded Orchid, and listening to the AM and can tell you a used Mojo Audio Mystique V3 dac is easily the best dac I have ever heard. My friend also purchased one and found it substantially better than the Aqua La Voice S3. He also had the the latest La Scala and prefers the Mojo.  The Mojo is special and yes an NOS dac. 

I purchased mine used here for $2600.  Mojo is selling used Mystique 3s for $3500 when traded on on a new Evo dac.

As good as the Amber 3 is, I found the Mojo dac far more compelling sounding than the Amber 3 in my system. As Ben of Mojo says it’s  the “harmonic coherency of his dacs or putting everything in its proper time and tune” that makes them sound so special. My system never sounds loud anymore even when turned way up! The sound just swells and expands, but it never sounds loud. Always composed, in control, and so natural. What a treat. 
@ianderson I had recently been looking for a DAC in the same price range as the La Scala Optologic Mk2 and eventually decided to place an order for a Lampi Atlantic TRP.  I think it's less forward than the Amber 3 and may provide the sonic character you're looking for.  I also love the flexibility to tweak the sound with a very large range of compatible tubes.  Mine hasn't arrived yet.