Affordable cables

ieales523 posts12-14-2019 2:01am

Some unbiased audiophiles can give an honest answer

Ain't no such thing.

EVERY audiophile who references their cable in their system in their room in their degree of intoxication has a validity factor of 1 / (number of audiophiles) or so close to zero as to be inconsequential.

Cables interact with other components. Whether they are chalk or cheese depends on the rest of the system and the room biased by personal proclivities.
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Not true. I`ve been in this discussion before and it can off course not be solved over the net. But I invited some "septics" to my home and wow no moore discussion. 
Why? Because my system is totally open, clean & clear, as beeing there and everyone (moore or less) can hear any difference, though not everyone knows how to evaluate them. That takes moore skills. I am a golden ear but not so much without my system. 

Very few has a tool like I have, but they are still trying to evaluate stuff in their moore cloudy systems. That`s like evaluating diamonds in the basement with sunglasses on, it`s worth nothing. This is why I recommend to take the object they plant to buy and bring it to a seasoned audiophiles system, compare it to his moore ekspensive equipment and by that get some enlightening. I did this when I was a beginner, it saved me a lot of trouble.

Zu Audio sells some of their cables on eBay. They are just fine and you may get them for (relatively) cheap. $100-200 is frequently a norm.

Then borrow someone’s expensive cables and compare to make your own opinion.

For whatever it is worth, Hosa XLR cables (about $15 per pair) and Shunyata Venom XLR cables (around $300-350, if I remember correctly) sound just the same. Shunyata looks better, though.

Thank you all for the input.sure got alot of advice. 
Merry Christmas 
Audiomaze 

millercarbon, the fact is that you have convinced yourself that all home brewed cables are failures based on one persons botched attempts. Your message to all DIYers is you are doing them a favor telling them to give up before they have started and just accept your message of ultimate failure. Every company that makes cables originally started with one person coming up with the idea and developing the project.

Well, no. Every time I tell that story its made perfectly clear this was anything but a one-off botched attempt, as you put it. The guy spent, sorry but since you missed it earlier I'm gonna shout, DECADES building COUNTLESS cables in his basement lab. This was his best, his One Cable, his Precious. The best he ever did. But his whole system was chock full of DIY cables. Only time music actually gave me a headache, his system with the DIY cables everywhere.

Oh and also, I tried a few myself. Dismal failures all. Pathetic. When I score I score, and this, wasn't even a rim shot. I have yet to hear the DIY cable no matter how great come anywhere even close to cheap pro wire.

These stories are not made up by the way. They're years in experience in the making. The exact opposite of blowing smoke, you know, like "every company originally started..." Have you met even ONE of these guys? Which one?

Wait, I got a better one: how is this even slightly controversial? Just assume, for the sake of argument, it really is possible to assemble some off the shelf parts and get truly outstanding performance. Your DIY cable, (sorry, laughing, hard to type) so secret you found it on the interweb (right?) anyone can do it, and its so awesomely better than anything else, and for cheap, and yet there's all these guys making obscene profits too dumb to figure out they can make even more building your DIY, slapping a fancy sticker with a name on it? There's a ton of em Would they not be doing this? So where are they? Oh and also at the same time the pro's would be testing and tweaking and finding trick ways to take all those same parts up a whole level, just so they can sell for even more. Leaving your regular old DIY in the dust.

Its one, or its the other. Notice nowhere in there is the scenario where the DIY really is good. Because they never are. Sorry. You got to at least pick a semi-defensible position to have any chance at all here. And this ain't it.

As for beating the SR drum, go to their classified pages here on A’gon and you will see 100’s of ads by their dealers, no need to plug their rather astronomically priced (recognizing they are not alone in their pricing) Nano quantum products.

Uh oh. What Freudian's call a slip.