New KLE Innovations XLR Cable


The PingPing brothers have spotted a new cable from KLE Innovations.
https://kleinnovations.com/kle-innovations-klei-products/klei-qseries/klei-qseries-xlr/klei-qflow7-x...

This one is an XLR cable and there was much excitement when first heard of. After success with Copper Harmony RCA and Absolute Harmony RCA (we shall not speak of Silver Harmony or Pure Harmony), expectation for successful XLR connector was big time. But for a company that is making best connectors, it was much disappointment to see that Neutrik XLR connectors are used on new cable. Why does this happen? Yes, Neutrik are good and cheap studio standard, but KLE Innovations advertise as ultra-high end audio company - where is KLE Innovations XLR. Disappointing.
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To other people reading this thread, both of the above posts are both very interesting...

I have to ask - Has either of you actually tried these cables???

If not - then exactly what is your motive in slamming a cable you have not tried ?

If you have tried them - then how do they compare to other well known brands of cables?

Did either of you bother to find out whether the XLR connectors were in fact one of Neutrik’s cheaper XLR connectors?

Perhaps Nuetrik is making a custom spec’d cable just for KLE Innovations - did you ask KLE Innvations that?

Also - If KLE Innovations had used a more expensive connector would they then be accused by "the Ping Ping Brothers" of using high priced connectors just to entice audiophiles to purchase their cables?

Granted, KLE Innovations web site literature has caused some "debate" on Audiogon in the past, but they have corrected that.

Ypingping - It’s interesting that many of your posts contain negative comments about KLE Innovations products.

So it seems that this thread serves no other purpose than to persuade people NOT to try them and it smacks of a competitor trying to sway peoples opinion away from this product.

Are you a competitor ?

I hope I’m wrong, but if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

Regards - Steve
Steve - Your post is also very interesting - and misguided.

1. Neither poster said (or implied) that the cable didn't sound good.  How could they?  They didn't.

They did say - and I agree  - that it is disappointing that a company that has produced innovative and good sounding RCA connectors has elected to use a Neutrik connector.

By the way, how much does this cable cost?  I could not find a price on the website.   You have to contact them to get a price?

2. Further, there was no post attempting to persuade people NOT to try the cable.  Perhaps such a post exists in your mind.

Further, your conclusion that the poster is  -  a competitor trying to sway people's opinion away from this product - is reckless at best.  Is there evidence (facts?) that he is?

Despite the numerous, excessive (have they reached 100? Or are there more?) posts on forums defending and lauding this company, it is the ultimate irony for you to criticize, and recklessly form conclusions about someone based upon a few posts.

You continue to be a propaganda machine for this company.  

@maxima95 - A simple email to KLE Innovations revealed that Neutrik actually built the XLR plugs to KLE Innovations spec. 

So perhaps they were not as "cheap" as the original poster "suggested" ?

And if I could find that out, why couldn't the PingPing brothers?

From that perspective, KLE Innovations are smart - why build a completely new plug when you can have a reputable company like Neutrik make a plug to your spec. After all developing a new plug would be much more expensive, so the savings are passed on to the consumer.

As for propaganda machine ...
- yes I have provided lots of positive feedback about KLE Innovations products, mainly because I have used a number of their connectors and cables for prolonged periods and found them to provide outstanding performance, 
- I have also raved about many other products from other manufacturers I have found to provide outstanding performance - so I guess those comments are propaganda also?
- based on my observations,  I decided to pass on my findings via this forum. I thought it would be helpful, not propaganda.

So you see, I do not see my postings as propaganda - I see them as providing a valuable information service on the performance of the various products I have used or reviewed, passed to the members of Audiogon.

My apologies - no was offense intended - Steve






"A simple email to KLE Innovations revealed that Neutrik actually built the XLR plugs to KLE Innovations spec."  This is interesting!  What is spec?  Would be good to hear more about this? 

Well. yes, KLEI does not re-invent the wheel with XLRs, maybe?  But we have very good XLRs available already:  Xhadow, ETI Kryo, Abbatron - all use higher quality conductive materials than Neutrik.  So what mod does KLEI do to improve the Neutriks? 

Sadly yping, other Ping brother has not commented. I think he does not hear this cable yet - worried like me about Neutriks with nickel and brass in their construction.  But maybe when we hear about improvements, it is different story.  Perhaps modified Neutriks use tellurium copper with silver plating?