The nightmare of the cartridge buyer...


I recently completed a several year quest to acquire a new cartridge. This quest was basically a major PITA and a nightmare!

Why? Well let’s take a look at what will be in store for all cartridge buyers’ in the US...and possibly other countries as well..IF they are seeking a top flite cartridge , like I was.

Firstly, and here’s where a big part of the problem lies: You will typically be unable to audition any cartridge under consideration...certainly not in your own home and more often than not, at your dealers either.

Then we have the fact that these products are closely monitored for who and whom can act as a dealer...which is then severally restricted by territory and distribution. We then add that the pricing is very well controlled...CAN WE SAY PRICE FIXING...which in most states is an illegal practice...but seems to be the rule here.


Let’s begin with my story...and then I am hoping that members will chime in here with their thoughts and probably also their own ’horror stories’....

About three years ago, I decided to acquire a cartridge that would replace my aging but still ok Benz Ruby 2...
I wanted a cartridge that would surpass that Benz in most areas...and one that would be priced at about $3-$5K. A lot of money to be spending on this piece of gear...or so I believed.

At the time, I was considering the following models....Benz LPS MR, Koetsu Urushi and Rosewood Platinum and the Lyra Kleos, Delos, a EMT, the Kiseki Purpleheart, Air Tight ( entry level model at the time..cannot remember what it was called) an Ortofon A90--and a Transfiguration Proteus--lastly one of the ZYX models. After some research, i discovered that the Ortofon’s, the Zyx’s and the Transfigurations wouldn’t work with my set up --due to too low an output by the respective cartridges for my all tube phono stage. So this left the Kiseki, the Koetsu’s, the Lyra’s and the Benz’s...and possibly the Air Tight model.

Circumstances changed and my cartridge buying escapade was put on hold...until a few months back. In the few years since my last foray, I find out that Benz have basically gone out of business ( again!!) and so has Transfiguration. Meanwhile, the Van Den Hul line has come into the US again...this time with a new distributor.
The Zyx line has totally been updated and the Lyra line is now more available than before...at least in theory. The Koetsu are now handled by Music Direct...who have essentially doubled the pricing across the board! Oh, i forgot, the Lyra line has increased by about 25% across the board ( i don’t think inflation can account for this!!)
So where to start auditioning --the answer...nowhere!
Instead I am supposed to rely on various dealers enthusiastic recommendation for these products...except for the fact that one dealer tells me that Koetsu’s are the best thing since mothers milk- and the other tells me that Koetsu’s are horrible with all the faults under the sun...( at least the ones that are in my budget..see above!) Can I hear any of these for myself...either in my system, or at the respective dealers...heck NO! ( and don’t think this type of scenario/ behavior isn’t consistent for other brands as well!--irrespective of whether the dealer(s) carries said brand or not!).

Here I am left with the choice of dropping several thousand dollars on a product that a) has no ability to be heard in my own system..therefore having no clue as to the results that I will get, b) has absolutely no return policy c) can be easily damaged by myself or others in the case of incorrect mounting to the tonearm...and lastly...and this is the one that really annoys me the most: I must shop for these products at a very limited amount of vendors who all are naysaying their competitors and acting extremely unprofessionally in the process. ( Do i really have to talk to the prospective rep for the line in order to determine the compatibility of the cartridge under question with my arm, the reasoning behind the asked price, where the dealer is that should be selling me the piece in question ( so as not to cross territorial lines) and on and on!!)

Then we have this little bonbon...The damn Japanese sourced cartridge(s) is available on several Japanese web sites at a price that is usually 50 -60% of the retail price here in the USA!! And that price in Japan is still at FULL RETAIL! ( Yes, I know it cost a ton of money to ship these things from Japan to here ( since they weigh a ton), LOL).

Where does this leave the US consumer in regards to the acquisition of a top flite cartridge...IMO the answer is between a hard place and a rock..You either pay through the nose and get totally ripped off by the likes of Music Direct and the various small independent reps in the US for these cartridges, or you takes your choice and risk buying from a grey market vendor abroad...but at a fraction of the price! BTW, mysteriously most of the top flite Benz cartridges continue to be very available from a vendor in China who seems to have cornered the market?? What’s up with this??

I can go on and about this journey, as I have just began to scratch the top of the heap in this story, but let’s hear from you guys as to your experiences and thoughts.... Was your top flite  cartridge acquisition an equal nightmare, or was it something else?






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@dgarretson

Yes, the Accuphase cartridges tend to fly a bit under the radar, which I think is the primary reason you can still purchase one without stylus or broken cantilever at pretty reasonable prices. I paid $112 on Ebay.

My system is certainly not ultra high end; the Accuphase is on a Jelco 750D with an aftermarket mounting collar and a Yamamoto HS4 carbon fibre headshell (a really nice headshell and a pretty substantial upgrade over the stock Jelco headshell) on a Michell Gryodec running into an Aqvox phono stage. The Aqvox is a current mode stage that tends to work better IMO with low impedance designs so the Accuphase is a good fit there.

The AC2 I have is probably also on the warmer side of neutral, but just slightly and not overtly warm like the lower end Koetsus IMO. My AC2 also originally had a sapphire tube cantilever; I’m just guessing, but I would expect that switching to the boron cantilever when Andy re-worked it probably warmed it up a bit as well.

Rumour has it that the AC2 and the Monster Alpha Genesis 1000 (both Nakatsuka designs-unlike as you pointed out the newer Accuphase cartridges) are essentially the same cartridge but I really can’t confirm that and the Genesis 2000 that I believe followed the 1000 was apparently quite a bit warmer than the 1000 so maybe the AC3 was cut from the same cloth and followed a similar path?

I would think your Kuzma arm should be a pretty good match with the AC3 in terms of effective mass/compliance as both are in the medium camp but perhaps you might have a better match with one of your other arms.

My system does not really warrant expenditures in even the $2K-$3K range in cartridges and from what I’ve heard in the uber expensive cartridges in much better systems than mine I still think there is compromise involved and subjective preferences come into play when it comes to purchasing a single cartridge.

I didn't mean to suggest that the AC2 was the equal of current offerings in the $5k-$15K range-I'm sure there are better cartridges out there. Just not at a cost that I'd like to absorb.  

But I’m a bit of a cheapskate and quite taken with my AC2. And if it's as good as the average $3000 cartridge, I am still thrilled! I think I can live happily ever after with it, but haven’t we all said that before?

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@elizabeth

I have an original still good Dynavector Ruby 23.. Gee $2000?


Paid about $600 for NOS Dyna 23RS Super with MicroReach stylus (they call it Reach, not Ridge) on ebay this summer. Amazing cartridge, will blown away many $2k carts
Simple. Support Soundsmith. USA made and sound superb. I recently purchased the Star II and it blows away the ZYX I have and cost almost half $. 
I'm in the thousand dollar or less crowd, I own an Ortofon 2M black they sell for 8-9 hundred dollars. I listened to a lot of MC carts but felt the black gave me more of what I wanted to hear at a price of thousands less. 
I'm glad to find that there are other Accuphase aficionados here.  I haven't heard the AC-3 so can't comment, but in no way would I describe the AC-2 as anything but neutral in both transient response and frequency response. 

Since I've started using Hi-Fi Shark I've been exposed to trading forums around the world and I have been a bit startled to see how many AC-1s and AC-2s are bought, sold, and traded in the Asian countries, with Japan leading the way.  Harry Pearson liked the AC-2 but by that point much more so with the more expensive but more colored cartridges.  So the AC-2 never became "big" here as it did in Asia.  And to the best of my knowledge neither the AC-1 or AC-3 were ever imported here.