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Bardo and 10.5 vs Stabi S and 4point 9

What would you choose of these two combinations? Has anyone had experience listening to each? I’ve only found one post noting a comparison, with the poster preferring the Kuzma.

I have been wanting the Bardo + 10.5 but the price keeps it out of range, at the very least for another month or two, possibly more. At nearly half the price I could pick up the Kuzma now. Wonder which of these two powerhouses people would go with.
gmercer
gallus
45 posts
 
sksos1, I am also interested in knowing more about this speed issue with the Bardo, in case you don't mind sharing.
regards
dsholl1
99 posts
 
I have Kuzma Ref2 with 4 Point 9 (Cardas Clear wire). Using a Phasemation PP-1000 couldn’t be happier. 
sksos1
387 posts
 
First I never said the Bardo had grossly or audible speed issues I said it just had speed issues this measured using the Timeline device which uses a quartz clock and said to be accurate to two parts per million. Not many tables can pass the timeline device test.
fjn04
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I will ad, that I was also considering Stabi S (12" version), and when nearing final decision, opted for Ref 2/Ref 313 VTA. The Stabi Ref 2 never did it for me in photos, but I am very pleased with the look in person. Lastly, I will simply echo the words built like a tank from above. 
gallus
45 posts
 
Sksos, thank you very much.
This kind of info is extremely valuable and, although agreeing that the Timeline test is challenging for most of the turntables in the market, it is indeed paramount to assess the results since speed stability and accuracy are preconditions for a good turntable and it is very unfortunate that they are likely not to be found in many cases. 
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