Time to change. But to what?


I've had my B&W N803 for a while now. Love them. But have a craving for a different type of sound.

I want speakers that play all kinds of music equally well. Excell at soundstaging, imaging, resolution, are NOT analytical, sound natural(this is very improtant...I hate artificial sound), and do the bass so you not only hear it but feel it as well.

I started building a list of potential candidates.
Here goes it:
1. B&W 803D
2. DALI Helicon 800MkII
3. DALI Euphonia MS4 or 5
4. Dynuadio S5.4
5. Sonus Faber Cremona

from the list I am familiar with S5.4, 803D and Cremona. I have never heard DALI speakers.

Room width is about 14 feet. Length is 18 feet. Speakers are on the short wall. Behind the speakers corners are treated with 8th Nerve Rectangles and Triangles, there is an area rug in front of speakers.

I listen to rock music, jazz(vocal and instrumental but dynamic stuff...no smooth jazz at all), acoustic music, solo, chamber and large orchestral classical(Tchaikovsky, Mahler, Bartok, Shoenberg, Shostakovich, etc). I would like the orchestra to be rendered as large and real as possible within the natural limitations of my room, system, listener.

I like to listen on realistic levels when I can, but since I have a 5 year old who goes to bed early, low level resolution is VERY IMPORTANT. I do a lot of late night listening at low levels and want to hear as much information out of the speakers as possible. My B&Ws excell at playing loud without strain. I want this quality to remain with the new speaker as well.

The speaker upgrade will most likely force me to use my Bel Canto DAC3 as a preamp for a while.

I am selling my BAT VK-51SE preamp right now to raise some funds for the speakers. Once I sell the preamp I plan to sell the B&Ws.

DAC3 isn't that bad direct into my Pass Labs X250.5 and I have a feeling I can deal with it for the time being.
No plans to change the amplifier, or anything else. Just the speakers.

What are my options?

Your advise is greatly appreciated.
128x128audphile1
Aud/Mimb that sounds like a good time. Please do post your findings. As a Dynaudio S5.4 owner (read: biased) I concur with your (audphile) findings. Very coherent across the range, stunning vocal clarity, accurate dynamics, shimmering highs that seem to have no limit, outstanding imaging (they do the 'dissapear' thing quite well), and excellent detail retrieval at low (night time) levels. I have little kids and this is VERY important. Prior to the S5.4's I had S3.4s and 1.8 MKII's. There is some intangible "rightness" to Dynaudio's sound, especially through the midband, that has me totally hooked. The fact that I can drive the S5.4s to excellent results across a wide range of volume with my lower power rated Plinius says quite a bit about the results you will get with the refined Pass X250.5 powerhouse. I know, I had one of those too (I miss that amp. Perhaps down the line I will try another Pass amplifier, but in the meantime I'm awaiting delivery of a Pass X1 preamp--like dynaudio there something also "just right" about Pass!) ok enough! TGIF and have a great time.
I can always put in a vote for Dynaudio. I own smaller Contour monitors and have heard various larger Dyns. Would concur with others general observations above. Set them up properly in the room, drive them properly with well matched amplification and there is little to want for at any particular price point.
Audphile1,

I am surprised no one has mentioned the aerial line. I currently still own a pair of 8b's and they play your type of music well. They also do not come apart at higher listening levels, and play well a low volumes. Compared to my Thiel CS6'S they are warmer sounding, but they do not match the resolution of the Thiel. However the aerial 9 or 20 may be just right for you. Also agree that the Nola line and Silverline speakers are good choices.
Audphile1- if you are in NYC, why not drive up to Mt. Kisco? I believe Frank has both Wilson and Dynaudio there. (and he's a great dealer) Audiocom in Greenwich has Revel and B&W and is another fantastic place. You can hear a ton at Sound By Singer as well in the city. (Audio Physic, Focal, etc)

FWIW, i just got a pair of C1s the other day and owned Sophias in the past. I can probably give you a good idea of how different the two brands are in due time. ps. the C1 has a lot more bass than it should have for its size. I chose the Sophias over the C4s a long time ago, but i'm not a huge fan of the Confidence aesthetics---barring the C1 monitor of course. I have heard the C2 is not much better than the C1, if that. Bit more low end, but the C4 is the true upgrade (as its full range)

KeithR
btw, i run Pass X250.5 on the Dyns right now. perhaps would like to try Krell FPB at some point too.