No bass in the Proac Response 3


I've just had the opportunity to buy a Proac Response 3 from a fellow agon just recently. One of the foam the 6.5" woofer was
torn ( with holes) so I already had it replaced with brand new foam. The treble improved quite a bit once I had the foam replace. The midrand is still the same and I have to say the Proac midrange is beautifull. I can sit and listen to female vocal (Krall, Elle, Cassandra) music all day. There is no sign of harsh or etch at all.

However, my problem now is that the bass is nowhere to be found when I play rock/pop. I do the regular Proac reccommended speaker placement of 2 feet away from the wall and the deep bass , mid bass are all but lost. If I moved the Proac very close to the wall then I get stronger bass, but now my image and everything else got all messed up. A simple analogy would be like I don't feel the singer is standing in the rooming sing anymore once I move the speakers toward the wall. Everything is just so flat ( 2-d), but the bass is good.

The most simple weak link that I can see in my system is that maybe the Krell integrated is just not big enough to produce the kinda big bass that I used to. But another interesting thing to know is that before I got the R3, I also got a much smaller Proac supertower that produced bass twice as much as the R3; and the R3 is twice the size, but lacking in the lower freq department.

My system is following:
Krell KAV-300i (integrated amp)
Arcam DV-27 (CD player)
Sony DVD player + PS Audio UltraLink DAC
Proac R3 (Full range speaker)
ducchau
I made suggestion about the cables, they made a noticaable difference in my setup. I am glad Krell 300i provides the bass quality you are looking for, but to say "tubes" don't cut-it is wrong. Have you experience Joule, Atma MA1, Shindo, and.or Audiovalve Challenger with Tungsol 6550??? There is no comparision between what I listed and Krell 300i. Like day and night, 2D and 3D :) I could also suggest another SS integrated amp for $700 that blew the Krell away!
Scan-Speak 18W 8542 woofer refoam instructions

(Scan-Speak 18W 8452 bass/midrange speakers are fitted as original equipment to many high end speakers such as Pro-Ac Response speakers, Scan-Speak 200, Celef monitors, Carlsson OA52 and 53 and others)

foam surround repair kit (stock code 0653K) for Scan-Speak 18W 8542 contains the same genuine surrounds as originally fitted. If you use any other surround on these speakers you will suffer greatly reduced bass output.
Wayneke- I know it's been a few years since this post ran, but I need a set of surrounds for the Scanspeak woofers in my Proac Response 3 speakers. Do you recall who might have a supply of these surrounds, or a number I can call to get more info?
Thanks, Pepperdog
Pepperdog,

Repair,
Millersound

New,
http://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/approx-10-woofers/scanspeak-classic-25w/8565-00-10-woofer/
I have replaced the drivers on my Supertowers and they sound better than original. I have just gotten Studio 100's from the late 90's that need new foam. Should I get new drivers or just call Madisound and do the refoam myself? I'm leaning that way. Still not sure which ones I'll sell. How do I find out how much I should ask (both in teak) since there are no records I can find of either types selling on the net? Thanks.