ProAc comparison


What are your thoughts on comparing different ProAc models? I’m currently on my 3rd pair.

I started out with the Tablette 2000, which was a superb value for the money, and a wonderfully musical speaker with surprising bass for its size. I kind of regret selling them, because I think they’d be just about the perfect bedroom system speakers. However, I always had these on hardwood floors, so I suspect they could be a bit soft in carpeted rooms.

Then I got a good deal on a pair of Response 2S, which I had been coveting since 1998. The Response 2S had better extension in both directions than the Tablette 2000, and I found them to be considerably brighter, to the point where I actually had to lay down a carpet on top of the hardwood floor of their initial room. But they certainly had all of the musicality of the Tablettes, and seemed to have no sacrifices once the tweeter was tamed. Then I moved into a bigger space. My current living room is 17’ x 17’, and carpeted. The carpet here eats high frequencies for lunch, but the Response 2S proved to be absolutely phenomenal imagers in here. They were throwing images well beyond the walls.

After hearing the Proac Studio 140, and being completely blown-away by it, I found a good deal on the Studio 140 Mk. II, and jumped on it. What I found was a trade-off from the Response 2S. I got an extra 10 Hz of bass extension, which has proved to be deeper than expected. I got better high-frequency extension, as well. The Studio 140 Mk. II are also much more dynamic, and more efficient. I can really feel the music with these speakers in a way that I couldn’t with the Response 2S. But the Response 2S were much better at imaging. They were warmer, had better bass-mid integration, and were much better at presenting vocal textures. The Studio 140 Mk. II are much better with instrumental textures. There’s no clear winner here - it really seems to be a matter of taste. For my part, I’ve decided to stick with the Studio 140 Mk. II for now, as the dynamics, clarity, and rhythmic drive of them work really well for the music I listen to. But I can really see tube lovers going for the Response 2S.

My one mythical lust object in the ProAc lineup remains the Response 2.5. I heard them in the late-’90s, and I have never heard anything else that did such an amazing job with acoustic bass texture. I really wonder how they hold up in the context of a modern system, and how they compare to newer models. I listened to the Response D25 and was not impressed. They sounded sluggish and muddy in comparison, despite the dealer telling me they had been improved.

So what are your experiences comparing different ProAc models? Which ones have really stood out to you, and which do you covet as part of your dream system?
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I first started this game with Proac EBS Studios back in er ... a long time ago!. 1977??
They were driven by Meridian 101 and 105 monoblocks and the sound was great. Eventually I went totally Meridian and via numerous changes ended up with the top of the range Meridians 861 processor and 8000 speakers in a fully blown surround system.
This of course was an excellent sound but something was missing and I bought the B&W 802d v2. This was a huge improvement over the 8000s and with analogue was pretty close to perfection with my Bryston sp2 processor and excellent Linn/Tom Evans etc etc set up.
Digital however was so harsh that I just couldn't cope so I sold th 802s and bought the Proac Carbon 8s at a good price. I now have Carbon 8s at the front, D28s sides (upgraded from D15s)  (and B&W old dalek style 802s as rears totally for visual effect!) and Response horizontal centre. I have a second system in my office 
Proac 3.8 fronts, the huge 3.5s as sides and my good old EBS Studios as rears
I have just bought a pair of 2.5s to compare and maybe mix around.
Coming to a point in all of this - I was so shocked (pleasantly) when I hooked up my old EBS Studios that I wondered what all the fuss was about re being up to date. They really are superb and the older type of sound really took me back to the past. Older sound, but not necessarily worse.
For an outlay of around £100 I could get a 101 and 105 and transport myself back to my youth and have a great sound too.
Regarding point maybe number 2, I believe the new B&W 802dv3 have dealt with the harsh issues and I would say that their imagery and clarity is better than the Proacs, IF indeed that harshness really is remedied.  The Carbon 8s are precise and clean and I suppose more rounded and musical, but I can get all that from the rest of my system so it is not so imperative overall as maybe the benefits the 802dsv3 can give.
Oh and lastly ...  messing around with cables and characteristics of those at a higher end makes a HUGE difference too, so you can tweak your Proacs somewhat 

I also tried a used set of ProAc Studio 125. Overall their sound was nice but the could get boomy as I can only put my speakers 12" out from my wall. I heard them bottom out on some movies as I use my 2 ch system for AV also. Plus, I thought the mids could be a little thick with a little too much color.

My current Studio 148s go deeper with more control and handle the mids and highs better with just the right amount of ProAc magic 
The only pair of ProAcs I've heard/owned are my current response D38's that I picked up second hand for a bargain. So I can't do much of a comparison but they sound great, currently passive bi-amped with a Musical Fidelity M6i and an ATI 1202, which to me sounds considerably better than just the M6i by itself. Thinking about trying a valve amp though, so would appreciate any feedback about which amps you have found bring out the best in the ProAcs. 

Cheers, Iain
I heard before the M6i with ProAc speakers and I didn't like this amp at all ,very poor match. 
Currently I drive my Proac's with McIntosh MC152 and it is an excellent combination. 
If you are looking for valve amp I think the McIntosh MC275 could be a great option.
The most "magical" system I've ever heard was the Proac 1SC paired with some very high end Naim stuff.  I can't remember exactly what we listened to I just remember how amazed I was at what was coming out of those little things.  Second, my dad owned a pair of Proac 2s for years and years.  I think they're the reason i'm into audio still today.  I have high regard for Proac.  When I have more money (not holding my breath), my kids are more careful around my speakers (not holding my breath) and I have more money (not holding my breath) Proacs will be on the short list.