ProAc comparison


What are your thoughts on comparing different ProAc models? I’m currently on my 3rd pair.

I started out with the Tablette 2000, which was a superb value for the money, and a wonderfully musical speaker with surprising bass for its size. I kind of regret selling them, because I think they’d be just about the perfect bedroom system speakers. However, I always had these on hardwood floors, so I suspect they could be a bit soft in carpeted rooms.

Then I got a good deal on a pair of Response 2S, which I had been coveting since 1998. The Response 2S had better extension in both directions than the Tablette 2000, and I found them to be considerably brighter, to the point where I actually had to lay down a carpet on top of the hardwood floor of their initial room. But they certainly had all of the musicality of the Tablettes, and seemed to have no sacrifices once the tweeter was tamed. Then I moved into a bigger space. My current living room is 17’ x 17’, and carpeted. The carpet here eats high frequencies for lunch, but the Response 2S proved to be absolutely phenomenal imagers in here. They were throwing images well beyond the walls.

After hearing the Proac Studio 140, and being completely blown-away by it, I found a good deal on the Studio 140 Mk. II, and jumped on it. What I found was a trade-off from the Response 2S. I got an extra 10 Hz of bass extension, which has proved to be deeper than expected. I got better high-frequency extension, as well. The Studio 140 Mk. II are also much more dynamic, and more efficient. I can really feel the music with these speakers in a way that I couldn’t with the Response 2S. But the Response 2S were much better at imaging. They were warmer, had better bass-mid integration, and were much better at presenting vocal textures. The Studio 140 Mk. II are much better with instrumental textures. There’s no clear winner here - it really seems to be a matter of taste. For my part, I’ve decided to stick with the Studio 140 Mk. II for now, as the dynamics, clarity, and rhythmic drive of them work really well for the music I listen to. But I can really see tube lovers going for the Response 2S.

My one mythical lust object in the ProAc lineup remains the Response 2.5. I heard them in the late-’90s, and I have never heard anything else that did such an amazing job with acoustic bass texture. I really wonder how they hold up in the context of a modern system, and how they compare to newer models. I listened to the Response D25 and was not impressed. They sounded sluggish and muddy in comparison, despite the dealer telling me they had been improved.

So what are your experiences comparing different ProAc models? Which ones have really stood out to you, and which do you covet as part of your dream system?
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I love my ProAc Studio 148. Great looking slim towers with nice mahogany finish. The downward facing port makes it flexible for placement. I have mine 12" from wall and slightly toed in using SEV 9 Soundocity outriggers which make the speaker much more stable and easier to position and level.

For sound, the mids are awesome as double reeds and strings resonate very lifelike and the tweeter is very revealing yet keeps the silk dome warmth with the right gear like my audio refinement separates or tubes. Plus they can compress the room with their deep bass.
I also tried a used set of ProAc Studio 125. Overall their sound was nice but the could get boomy as I can only put my speakers 12" out from my wall. I heard them bottom out on some movies as I use my 2 ch system for AV also. Plus, I thought the mids could be a little thick with a little too much color.

My current Studio 148s go deeper with more control and handle the mids and highs better with just the right amount of ProAc magic 
@itzhak1969, you are correct. The studio 148 is discontinued as with its redesigned drivers and same tweeter as the reference line, it mostly likely took away some sales in the reference line. I've heard a more expensive replacement is coming out soon. I actually was in contact with the owner and let know that I would not be a ProAc owner if it was not for the 148 at its price point and performance level. 
Yes, but at what increased price (for the replacement studio 148s). When I purchased mine they were already priced at the top of my budget and were the most expensive audio item I've ever purchased and I make a decent salary as a software engineer in the Seattle area. See my system link for details. 
Giving a great thread a bump.  I would really like to hear the DT8s vs my 148s.  It is interesting that some of the 2.5 owners mentioned their speakers bottoming out easily.  I experienced this with the 125 used ones I took home for demo and the D18 I demoed in store.  I don't think the DT8s go quite as low and I was assured the dome tweeters are the same in the 148s and Reference line (including the DT8).

Here is the gear I use with my 148s (everything is 2 channel):

Audio Refinement Pre 5 (by YBA)
Audio Refinement Multi 5
Audio Refinement Tuner
Modified RP6 with GT subplatter, Herbie Mat and AT-33PTG/II
Jasmine LP2 mkII phono stage
Mogami speaker cables (2921 with gold BFAs in biwire config)
Mogami RCAs (2549 with KLEI Copper Harmony or Furutech 126g)
Signal Cable MagicPower power cords
Soundocity SEV9 outriggers for stabilizing my 148s

Also, if you have DC on your line like I do (makes my preamp transformer hum) try the Emotiva CMX-2.