ProAc comparison


What are your thoughts on comparing different ProAc models? I’m currently on my 3rd pair.

I started out with the Tablette 2000, which was a superb value for the money, and a wonderfully musical speaker with surprising bass for its size. I kind of regret selling them, because I think they’d be just about the perfect bedroom system speakers. However, I always had these on hardwood floors, so I suspect they could be a bit soft in carpeted rooms.

Then I got a good deal on a pair of Response 2S, which I had been coveting since 1998. The Response 2S had better extension in both directions than the Tablette 2000, and I found them to be considerably brighter, to the point where I actually had to lay down a carpet on top of the hardwood floor of their initial room. But they certainly had all of the musicality of the Tablettes, and seemed to have no sacrifices once the tweeter was tamed. Then I moved into a bigger space. My current living room is 17’ x 17’, and carpeted. The carpet here eats high frequencies for lunch, but the Response 2S proved to be absolutely phenomenal imagers in here. They were throwing images well beyond the walls.

After hearing the Proac Studio 140, and being completely blown-away by it, I found a good deal on the Studio 140 Mk. II, and jumped on it. What I found was a trade-off from the Response 2S. I got an extra 10 Hz of bass extension, which has proved to be deeper than expected. I got better high-frequency extension, as well. The Studio 140 Mk. II are also much more dynamic, and more efficient. I can really feel the music with these speakers in a way that I couldn’t with the Response 2S. But the Response 2S were much better at imaging. They were warmer, had better bass-mid integration, and were much better at presenting vocal textures. The Studio 140 Mk. II are much better with instrumental textures. There’s no clear winner here - it really seems to be a matter of taste. For my part, I’ve decided to stick with the Studio 140 Mk. II for now, as the dynamics, clarity, and rhythmic drive of them work really well for the music I listen to. But I can really see tube lovers going for the Response 2S.

My one mythical lust object in the ProAc lineup remains the Response 2.5. I heard them in the late-’90s, and I have never heard anything else that did such an amazing job with acoustic bass texture. I really wonder how they hold up in the context of a modern system, and how they compare to newer models. I listened to the Response D25 and was not impressed. They sounded sluggish and muddy in comparison, despite the dealer telling me they had been improved.

So what are your experiences comparing different ProAc models? Which ones have really stood out to you, and which do you covet as part of your dream system?
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I own the Proac Studio 140MK II as well,wonderfull speakers in every aspect, they are so good that if I want a real upgrade I need to jump to the Response D48R which cost more than triple compare the 140MKII so I can't afford it unfortunately. 
In general standmount speakers are easier to "disappear"  in space and throw away great imaging than floor standers, but floor standers are better in dynamics, low frequencies and punch.
In general I think that the 140MKII are one of the rear speakers that give you much more than their asking price and if you want to upgrade them you need to spend a lot of money for better results. 
I heard before the M6i with ProAc speakers and I didn't like this amp at all ,very poor match. 
Currently I drive my Proac's with McIntosh MC152 and it is an excellent combination. 
If you are looking for valve amp I think the McIntosh MC275 could be a great option.
I have only the entry level floor standing of Proac speakers the Studio 140 MKII , my amplification & cables cost 4 times more than the Proac’s and they absolutely magical ; Huge soundstage, visceral dynamics ,absolutely neutral and natural .I never found such a superb speakers anywhere else in their price level .
By the way I heard the new version Studio 148 and I am not sure that I like them some of the magic had gone maybe because of the paper cone drivers instead of the 140's carbon drivers , I don’t know...
I use SS Macintosh amp with superb results.
I agree that Proac speakers do need good and amplification and cables to perform best and that they are viscerally revealing weak parts in your system chain.
Proac Studio 148 is no longer in production I think , it's not exist at Proac website anymore. It's very sad if it's correct. 
The K8 are one of the best speakers but do need top notch system and very large listening space .
I heard all speakers you mentioned ,The DT8 is by far better than the D18 and the 148 , What HiFi magazine mentioned this speakers the best in its price in 2018 and 2019 and rightly so they do go low , has deep bass and excellent mid their soundstage is unbelievable huge certainly the best speakers I ever heard in this price level .I found the D18 speakers interesting and musical only with tube amp but deep bass and dynamics are not their strength.finally the 148 are the only ever Proac speakers that I heard and didn’t like at all they’re too aggressive and their mid is blur and messy the former 140 mk2 which I owned till 2 years ago where much better . currently I own the D30RS wonderfull speakers very neutral, natural and balanced.