Rpeluso,
I believe that this was an exception to the rule regarding Atma-Sphere products. A friend has owned the MA-1 amp and the MP-1preamp for years with no problems what so ever. This brand has a well established reputation for reliability as far as I know.
Charles, |
Trelja,
The only Acoustic Zen speaker I've heard is their Crescendo on 3 different occasions driven by the fine Triode CORP 845 PSET amplifiers. This combination was wonderful sounding each time and I was able to play my own familiar music.
Honestly, no one brand or model of anything is capable of pleasing everyone, too many variables and circumstances. Name any speaker on this thread and a rave comment will inevitably be followed by a negative comment. The nature of the beast. I'm currently under audiogon moderator scrutiny now, so who knows when this reply will post.
Charles, |
Tubegroover,
Your comments are true, particular circumstances and conditions can have significant influence so I try to factor that in. Ironically I usually find myself in agreement with Trelja more often than not, well we'll just differ in this case.
Regarding the moderator, someone didn't like my comments on a current thread concerning his Magico speakers so he reported me.Now my posts have to be approved.
Charles, |
Tubegroover,
The strange thing is that I didn't say anything bad about Magico, just expressed They have not impressed me . I freely acknowledged that they have loyal admirers who defend them vigorously.
Charles, |
Trelja,
I suppose 2 out of 3 isn't bad.
1. Agree with your take on the merits of paper cones(done properly).Natural is absolutely the right description.
2,My impression of Legacy is the same as yours and Tubegroover.
3. The Acoustic Zen Crescendo made music for certain when I heard it. Anyway I always appreciate your insight and contributions on this site.
Charles, |
Trelja,
From a philosophical standpoint I agree with much of what you wrote in your post. I owned a speaker with a series crossover(Harmonic Precision Echelon, 12 ohm load) and it was very good. For what ever reason the AZ Crescendo impressed me and was natural in sound (a must have for me).I do find that many modern "high resolution" speakers have a somewhat artificial character that strikes me as hifi rather than natural music reproduction. I definitely relate to your perspective in general.
Jwm, I've said all I'm going to say about Magico, to each their own.
Charles, |
Well it seems my monitored restriction has been lifted today, thanks audiogon for this action. I sincerely appreciate the support of fellow audiogon members. As with all of my Posts on this site, I was just expressing a honest opinion. As Trelja said, disagreement is expected and often beneficial in open forum discussions.
Charles, |
John,
Agreed, investigate the merit of the complaint is all I ask before rendering a decision. Anyway it's in the past now.
Charles |
Al,
Thank you for your very kind comments. The feeling is mutual.
Charles, |
Tubes108,
I have no legitimate reason to question your experience with the Atmasphere products. I give people who post here the benefit of doubt unless they subsequently give me a reason not to. My point was that these products have been around for quite a long time and have established a very good reputation for quality and reliability. That doesn't mean that there may have been the rare lemon from time to time(true for any company). I hardly ever read that Atmasphere owners are complaining about service or reliability issues. I can understand your specific situation and frustration, it doesn't appear to be widespread problem however.
Charles, |
Tubes108,
You've owned Viva, Quicksilver and Joule power amplifiers (good taste) did you have any reliability problems with these?
Charles, |
Hi Tubes108,
First of all I don't doubt your individual experience with the AtamaSphere components and said so in an earlier post. I was not questioning your credibility, only suggesting that complaints about those products are rare in regards to reliability/dependability.
I know you've own some very fine brands (and I listed some of them). I was curious if they had caused you similar grief, my intentions were nothing more than that. The Joule is another OTL you've owned and I simply mentioned it for comparison to the AtmaSphere.
You have every right and opportunity to cite your disappointing product experiences just the same as everyone else who's responded on this thread. I hope this clarifies my posts on this topic. Tubes108, witch hunts aren't for me.
Charles, |
Hi Tortilladc,
Did you read the follow up replies to Tubes108 last post? There was a change in sentiment toward him and he was given the benefit of doubt. |
Melbguy1,
How you can look at a perfect stranger's audio system and even remotely extrapolate their personal financial capabilities is beyond me. In my opinion this isn't just an inaccurate and misguided approach, it's incredibly rude and arrogantly presumptuous. To judge an audio system based on monetary outlay is not only wrong but reveals much ignorance.
Brownsfan has written some of the most thoughtful and intelligent posts on this site over the years. Through his numerous contributions on audiogon it's very clear and obvious he loves music and expresses his appreciation in a most articulate manner. Reading his posts I'd venture to say that his system's sound quality mirrors this very high level as well.This is more than I can say for your often pugnacious comments posted on this enjoyable (usually) forum. |
Melbguy1, To further contrast you and Brownsfan, I doubt that he'll go off and complain to this site's moderators. If he chooses to, he'll respond to your comments regarding him in a mature and appropriate fashion. By the way, why the assumption(based on your reply above) that your system is superior to his? Have you listened to his system?
Charles, |
Hi John,
Could you look t my system and based on its make up and then determine my financial stability or level of discretionary income? Would you say that I could reach similar conclusions judging your system?
One could have an expensive system and be in significant debt as a result.
One could have a less expensive system that represents a small fraction of what they're capable of spending but simply chose not to.
John, could we accurately make this determination of people we don't even know? For sake of debate if we "could" do this, what business is it of ours?
Does a more costly system imply it's always better sounding? Was it necessary for Melb1guy to even go there concerning Brownsfan?
Regardings,
Charles, |
Hi John,
I just expect that on an open forum disagreements can be managed and handled without someone's feelings being hurt.Anyway I've said my piece and will leave it there. Brownsfan is more than capable of responding if he sees fit{and he may not}.
Thanks,
Charles1, |
Hi Whart,
That's has and will always be the case. This is why so many choices are available in the "small" community of High End audio. I don't expect consensus on any brand or particular model. I know exactly what Syntax means with his comment but again, it just happens to be our personal impression. Mapman thinks the Magico is fine and I can totally understand and respect his opinion. Simply different individual taste.
Charles, |
Knghifi,
What you wrote makes sense. I've listened to the Magico Q3 and Q5 driven by Soulution, Spectral and Constellation power amplifiers and didn't like what I heard (Constellation with the S5 was better, less clinical). I've heard the S5 and S3 models numerous times and the best match IMO was the Absolare Passion PSET 845 driving the Magico S5 (it was pretty darn good!). I've heard VAC amplifiers with the S5 and although decent sounding, I preferred the Absolare amp with this speaker.
Charles, |
