Yg carmel 2 owners

I've never heard the Carmel, but I do think the Magico S1 Mk II is a very very curious speaker. :)

Little chesty, needs gobs of power, and space.  A small but very demanding speaker with great imaging and a very very wide sweet spot, and a little chesty.

I think the A3 is significantly cheaper, no?  If so, totally worth considering instead.

Hi @smodtactical

I have always felt the A3 has the potential to be a much better value than the S1 Mk II and far easier to own, but I have not actually heard it, and I was using the S1 Mk II as a foil for the YG Carmel because both are floor standing 2 way speakers.

With all things, use your own ears. :)

Best,

E

Surprisingly, JA seems to have picked up on this as well:

"Note the increasingly capacitive phase angle below the sealed-box woofer-tuning frequency of 60Hz, which suggests there is a high-value series capacitor in the woofer feed. "

He usually misses or omits issues like this in the past. This cap is helping maintain a rather consistent slope, with none of the usual lower bass bump speakers often had for toe-tapping. Looks like YG’s choice of driver had some limitations, and he has designed the woofer crossover like a midrange, with filters above and below.

Why? I don’t know, of course, but it could be two things. 1, there was a bass bump he wanted to tame, 2 he’s genuinely worried about the excursion and distortion lower frequencies will cause that driver. Interesting set of compromises, lots of 7" ish over the shelf drivers wouldn’t need this.

Definitely a speaker begging to pair with subs.

Well, I just saw the Stereophile measurements. The impedance chart was particularly curious. Is there a high pass filter there on the woofer? The rising impedance at 20 Hz, plus the phase angle would suggest so. Perhaps YG is worried about the driver displacement?

It also does look like an ideal candidate for a sub.

Would be interesting to hear it, especially side by side with the Magico S1, which is not perfect. It is incredibly inefficient, and to my ears, sounds a little chesty in the lower piano, lower female voices, but it did have a natural sounding bass roll off for a 2 way.